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    Player
    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksuyen View Post
    If the dancer is using a fan to deal damage to heal - 100% damage returns as 100% heal to the lowest HP allies - would that be too OP?
    It would be cool, not OP, just have to tweak the numbers.
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    Eimian_Eda's Avatar
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    Eimian E'da
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksuyen View Post
    If the dancer is using a fan to deal damage to heal - 100% damage returns as 100% heal to the lowest HP allies - would that be too OP?
    That would be close to old Disc Priest I think, which I'd personally love.
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    Yu Sakurakoji
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Male version?
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    Devon Ellwood
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ksuyen View Post
    Male version?
    I'm pretty sure I won't be the only one disappointed if the male one isn't as scantily clad as the female gear. If it's not, then I'll find a way.
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    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevonEllwood View Post
    I'm pretty sure I won't be the only one disappointed if the male one isn't as scantily clad as the female gear. If it's not, then I'll find a way.
    Nope. Male needs to be dressed in a Chippendales uniform... >.>

    On the topic of making dancer a healer that deals damage to heal. I feel like that would break healer balance with the player base due to how focused so many people are on dps and parsers.

    On the topic of job diversity. If you choose not to play certain jobs that's your choice to limit your options. If you limit your options this way then complain about not having options you have only yourself to blame.

    Me personally...

    I'd like a Mascot healer that wears costumes like the moogle and tonberry suits and used plushies as their class weapon... but that's just me I guess... Bonus points if it was a ranged caster weapon that hopped out of your arms to run up and smack the monster before running back...
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    On the topic of making dancer a healer that deals damage to heal. I feel like that would break healer balance with the player base due to how focused so many people are on dps and parsers.
    Scholar fairies provide passive and free healing which also targets the person who needs it the most. I feel like having more of these "smart heals" would help give a new healer its own flavor (as well as having heal-shields that heal the shielded person when damage is taken). Dancer could passively heal the lowest HP target when doing dps, and if the passive heal potency was similar to the fairies' then I think balance wouldn't be an issue.
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ksuyen View Post
    If the dancer is using a fan to deal damage to heal - 100% damage returns as 100% heal to the lowest HP allies - would that be too OP?
    I still don't think healer will heal by dealing damage. SE makes it very obvious that they don't want to force healers to DPS, so unless they changed their stance on that now, dancer is probably going to play the same as any other healer.
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    I still don't think healer will heal by dealing damage. SE makes it very obvious that they don't want to force healers to DPS, so unless they changed their stance on that now, dancer is probably going to play the same as any other healer.
    Which is frankly stupid, because instead they have us DPSing because there's literally nothing else to do. I really wish that instead of doubling down on their bizarre "we don't expect healers to DPS even though everyone else in the community does" mentality they'd just embrace it instead and let DPS spells somehow enhance or integrate better with our healing. Or make healer DPS rotations more interesting somehow, or something. Because right now the best healers in the game aren't being challenged by healing requirements, but they're not being challenged by weaving healer DPS in either.
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    Sohee Kim
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    Which is frankly stupid, because instead they have us DPSing because there's literally nothing else to do. I really wish that instead of doubling down on their bizarre "we don't expect healers to DPS even though everyone else in the community does" mentality they'd just embrace it instead and let DPS spells somehow enhance or integrate better with our healing. Or make healer DPS rotations more interesting somehow, or something. Because right now the best healers in the game aren't being challenged by healing requirements, but they're not being challenged by weaving healer DPS in either.
    This may sound a bit crazy. But I personally think maybe they say they don't expect healers to DPS is mainly due to the literal harassment that has followed when that topic comes up. I still remember the threads where people were just insulting, attacking, etc people that don't DPS. People going to the extremes of saying they will purposely wipe a run over it and even talking about kicking and/or reporting the person and even using the worst possible example and labeling EVERY healer that doesn't DPS as that one example person. Like..seriously? Is a healer not DPSing that much of a big deal? Of course I'm not trying to ignite the flames of the debate again. But I honestly can understand why they would say that.
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Is this all the forum is now? Person A makes a thread espousing an idea (or gets hijacked to do so), Person B doesn't like this and the idea of merely disagreeing in the original thread is just simply not enough no no they have to make their own thread disagreeing with Person A's dialogue, inciting Person C to argue against Person B and maybe make their own thread! Soapbox Forums XIV™: 1,000,001 Threads and 20 Topics!

    But yeah if we get a healer it should be dancer. It's always been a support class, even up to its appearance in XI where it was support/debuff/heals with the ability to deal decent damage.
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