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  1. #21
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    SilverObi's Avatar
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Is this all the forum is now? Person A makes a thread espousing an idea (or gets hijacked to do so), Person B doesn't like this and the idea of merely disagreeing in the original thread is just simply not enough no no they have to make their own thread disagreeing with Person A's dialogue, inciting Person C to argue against Person B and maybe make their own thread! Soapbox Forums XIV™: 1,000,001 Threads and 20 Topics!

    But yeah if we get a healer it should be dancer. It's always been a support class, even up to its appearance in XI where it was support/debuff/heals with the ability to deal decent damage.
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  2. #22
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    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    Vice Shark
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    Is this all the forum is now? Person A makes a thread espousing an idea (or gets hijacked to do so), Person B doesn't like this and the idea of merely disagreeing in the original thread is just simply not enough no no they have to make their own thread disagreeing with Person A's dialogue, inciting Person C to argue against Person B and maybe make their own thread! Soapbox Forums XIV™: 1,000,001 Threads and 20 Topics!

    But yeah if we get a healer it should be dancer. It's always been a support class, even up to its appearance in XI where it was support/debuff/heals with the ability to deal decent damage.
    "Now"?

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    But yeah, I get you, it's asinine
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  3. #23
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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    Is this all the forum is now? Person A makes a thread espousing an idea (or gets hijacked to do so), Person B doesn't like this and the idea of merely disagreeing in the original thread is just simply not enough no no they have to make their own thread disagreeing with Person A's dialogue, inciting Person C to argue against Person B and maybe make their own thread! Soapbox Forums XIV™: 1,000,001 Threads and 20 Topics!

    But yeah if we get a healer it should be dancer. It's always been a support class, even up to its appearance in XI where it was support/debuff/heals with the ability to deal decent damage.
    Well we gotta fill it with something until we can complain about Eureka, then revert back just in time for Tokyo Fanfest.
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  4. #24
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    Which is frankly stupid, because instead they have us DPSing because there's literally nothing else to do. I really wish that instead of doubling down on their bizarre "we don't expect healers to DPS even though everyone else in the community does" mentality they'd just embrace it
    Believe me, I'm 100% with you on this. SE is surprisingly stubborn with things. If dancer really does come out as a healer that needs to DPS to heal, I hope they'll also knock off their stupid pure healer stance with WHM.
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  5. #25
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    Nihility's Avatar
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    honestly I don't care what the job is dancer, geomancer, shaman, oracle, whatever

    What i would like is a job that does it's shields/regens/etc as separate skills from the heals.
    For as long as I've played this game(1.0...) it still irks me every time everyone is at full health and i need to blow a ton of mp on a completely wasted heal because the group needs the shield

    Even if i need to be a dancer meleeing for combo points or whatever they'll do in 14 it would be worth it to me
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  6. #26
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    Eimian_Eda's Avatar
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    Eimian E'da
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    Brynhildr
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    Astrologian Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by ksuyen View Post
    If the dancer is using a fan to deal damage to heal - 100% damage returns as 100% heal to the lowest HP allies - would that be too OP?
    That would be close to old Disc Priest I think, which I'd personally love.
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  7. #27
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    Seoulstar's Avatar
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    Sohee Kim
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    Which is frankly stupid, because instead they have us DPSing because there's literally nothing else to do. I really wish that instead of doubling down on their bizarre "we don't expect healers to DPS even though everyone else in the community does" mentality they'd just embrace it instead and let DPS spells somehow enhance or integrate better with our healing. Or make healer DPS rotations more interesting somehow, or something. Because right now the best healers in the game aren't being challenged by healing requirements, but they're not being challenged by weaving healer DPS in either.
    This may sound a bit crazy. But I personally think maybe they say they don't expect healers to DPS is mainly due to the literal harassment that has followed when that topic comes up. I still remember the threads where people were just insulting, attacking, etc people that don't DPS. People going to the extremes of saying they will purposely wipe a run over it and even talking about kicking and/or reporting the person and even using the worst possible example and labeling EVERY healer that doesn't DPS as that one example person. Like..seriously? Is a healer not DPSing that much of a big deal? Of course I'm not trying to ignite the flames of the debate again. But I honestly can understand why they would say that.
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  8. #28
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    vividachi's Avatar
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    Luna Lumos
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I really enjoy playing healer, so I wish for more healer classes as well
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  9. #29
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    MorbolvampireQueen6's Avatar
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    Nagini Kagon
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    Brynhildr
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    We better not get another dps job for the nxt 2 expansions ... since stormblood added 2 we should get 2 tanks and 2 healers before new dps
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  10. #30
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    DPS has NINE jobs, and ten if you count Blue Mage. Tanks now have four, and healers currently are known to have three.
    I agree next job should be a healer, but does anyone honestly consider blue mage to be a proper DPS job?

    I certainly wouldn't count a healing job introduced in the same fashion in the healer pool.
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