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  1. #811
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Variety because the current CC is very bland. You cant really customize your own character, build his own identity while someone else can just look like you (same face, same hair, same everything).
    There are two elements to this, though. One is the range of choices you have in designing your character, and the other is how many other people are likely to make the same choice that you did - and whether you see that as a fault of the character creator or not.

    More variety would always be nice, but it's not like we're that limited. There's a big range of body shapes and faces, but people tend to gravitate towards the few "best" ones, and I think that could happen however many races they add.

    It's unfair to say that the character creator is lacking enough variety just because someone can end up picking the same settings you did. Of course they can, and will. The same appealing combinations of features are likely to be chosen by multiple people.

    If looking different to all other players in a large-scale multiplayer game is that important to you, you have to go out of the way to find an unusual character design that you still like.

    If you'd rather stick with the design you like most (even if it's shared by other people) then you either differentiate it by your glamour choices, or just accept that other characters will look like yours - but you're still the one and only Warrior of Light who exists in your version of the game's story.



    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    When asked about male Viera, Yoshida said we'd get info about them at the Tokyo Fanfest. If the answer were "no, we're not getting them" it wouldn't make any sense to have a special reveal about that, let alone a teaser about an upcoming reveal. The only way his comment makes sense is if we're getting both genders, but the reveal videos are being released separately.
    Unless the exciting reveal is another new (male-only) race! In which case they can't tell us that Viera aren't coming without confirming that something else is coming.

    (In which case I would think it would have still been better to confirm that much and let the speculation begin. But of course it's not up to me.)
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    Last edited by Iscah; 02-08-2019 at 05:24 PM.

  2. #812
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taykawai View Post
    Lol, you reply everyone, you dont work or sleep? XD
    Still thin we will get rev or a new race. What is kinda odd is that blufever never said anything about locked race, so male is not totally off.
    Rev is about as likely as me playing Au Ra or Viera. Very unlikely, especially as they're less popular than FFXIV's beastmen and not as well known compared to FFVIII's Shumi (since you actually fight one, whereas Rev in FFXII... there's what, only two in the entire game?).
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  3. #813
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    Dyslexius Nervar
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    Rev does seem unlikely but a possibility if this lion race is completely separate from the Viera.

    What I don't understand is if they were going to add in a male-only race then why not add the male-only race that they actually showed in FF12? The Garif? Just like the Viera, the Garif had a tribe which showed only one sex but they still spoke of their females living in another tribe - which led people to think that Viera and Garif were the same.

    And of course, an argument here for why Viera males weren't added - Garif females weren't added either but we know they exist.

    'This race of large-framed, well-muscled humanoids have bodies covered in thick fur.
    The Garif adorn themselves simply with ornaments of stone and bone, preferring natural objects over those crafted or otherwise unchanged from their original form. The one exception is their masks: each is unique, and is worn for the duration of the owner's life.
    The Garif worship magicite as a sacred substance, and possess deep cultural knowledge of the stones.'


    We know they go out on adventures; you can see them doing this in FF12. If the issue is with the mask then it makes perfect sense for one who has left their clan and no longer worships the 'stones' - which are crystals btw - to remove their mask.

    Furthermore; we don't know what they look like without their masks. Only that they are tall, muscular, have body fur, have pointed elf like ears and are hunched over a little - but this is likely due to the weight of the bone mask.
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  4. #814
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Rev is about as likely as me playing Au Ra or Viera. Very unlikely, especially as they're less popular than FFXIV's beastmen and not as well known compared to FFVIII's Shumi (since you actually fight one, whereas Rev in FFXII... there's what, only two in the entire game?).
    Plot twist: Rev are male Viera. :O

    Rev = Ver
    Ver = V(i)er(a)

    Edit: Joke aside, after checking on the lore we got from the dreaming Dramaturge (aka Matsuno's "wonderful" text as Yoshi mentioned), I doubt Rev or Garif are male viera.
    If young female/male Viera look the same til the age of 13, male Viera would need to mutate most likely to look like Rev or the Garif. I doubt a cute bunny child with maybe tiny/no ears can grow into a cat-like race. Also lets not forget the proportions of the ears.
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 02-08-2019 at 07:51 PM.

  5. #815
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    Well, there's been more "leaks". Someone claiming to be the source of blufevers info has stated that there is a second male genderlocked race. That they're not Ronso, but described as 'bara cats'.

    I have to say I'm actually warming to the idea.
    I'd never switch to Viera, male or female, but depending on how this new cat race turns out, if true... could be a possibility.
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    I guess the Male version will come, it happened with the Male Cats too, they weren't available from the beginning like most ppl know.
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  7. #817
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Well, there's been more "leaks". Someone claiming to be the source of blufevers info has stated that there is a second male genderlocked race. That they're not Ronso, but described as 'bara cats'.

    I have to say I'm actually warming to the idea.
    I'd never switch to Viera, male or female, but depending on how this new cat race turns out, if true... could be a possibility.
    I saw that and it looked fake. Nothing they were adding wasn't already known already.
    I still don't understand the whole adding of a second race which is a cat - when we already have a cat race. I would have believed it more if they said it was a wolf/fox/monkey - yes, the bloody monkey would have been more believable! I'd rather have a race similar to that of the last boss from swallows compass than another cat!

    I also have to ask how a feline male is less weird than a rabbit male? I mean, if they made the design more than just 'knock off Khajiit' than I can see it, and it was more like Lion-dogs Komainu? Instead, we're going to get what I imagine to be 'Humanoid Byakko' - which BTW has the same type of feet as Viera. And while Byakko does look pretty handsome for what he is. I'd be rather disappointed if they simply take the model from Byakko to make another feline race. His body - regarding the muscle structure - and his face would have been ideal for a male Viera in my opinion, it's very manly and not at all what a person can describe as 'cute'.

    Sorry for the huge image, will hide box it once I figure out the BBCODE



    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    I doubt Rev or Garif are male viera.
    If young female/male Viera look the same til the age of 13, male Viera would need to mutate most likely to look like Rev or the Garif. I doubt a cute bunny child with maybe tiny/no ears can grow into a cat-like race. Also lets not forget the proportions of the ears.
    Oh no, I wasn't saying that Garif were male Viera - I was saying that it seems much more likely to me that they would have been 'male race' that is supposedly gender locked. Back in the day people thought Garif were male Viera, but that was simply because each 'tribe' only had one sex in it. Viera had females, Garif had males. Of course Garif females and Viera males exist - but that's simply what people speculated due to the lack of seeing them.
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  8. #818
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Well, there's been more "leaks". Someone claiming to be the source of blufevers info has stated that there is a second male genderlocked race. That they're not Ronso, but described as 'bara cats'.

    I have to say I'm actually warming to the idea.
    I'd never switch to Viera, male or female, but depending on how this new cat race turns out, if true... could be a possibility.
    I read about that too, but to be honest... there needs to be more evidence about this.
    I could simply claim to be a leaker too on discord.
    While Blu did this stuff last year and his were more or less accurate over time, this new one claiming to be one as well, is just silly imo. Trying to get attention, being angry about comments people leave here and on reddit (other platforms). Looks more like someone wants bara cats and is unhappy about people asking for bun bois
    Or who knows, maybe thats how male Viera look like?
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 02-08-2019 at 08:53 PM.

  9. #819
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Well, there's been more "leaks". Someone claiming to be the source of blufevers info has stated that there is a second male genderlocked race. That they're not Ronso, but described as 'bara cats'.

    I have to say I'm actually warming to the idea.
    I'd never switch to Viera, male or female, but depending on how this new cat race turns out, if true... could be a possibility.
    Bara cats ?? lmfao
    Now that I think of it, there is a possibility that the new "male race" (ronso / bara cats) are a new miqo'te subrace
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I also have to ask how a feline male is less weird than a rabbit male? I mean, if they made the design more than just 'knock off Khajiit' than I can see it, and it was more like Lion-dogs Komainu? Instead, we're going to get what I imagine to be 'Humanoid Byakko' - which BTW has the same type of feet as Viera. And while Byakko does look pretty handsome for what he is. I'd be rather disappointed if they simply take the model from Byakko to make another feline race. His body - regarding the muscle structure - and his face would have been ideal for a male Viera in my opinion, it's very manly and not at all what a person can describe as 'cute'.




    To me Byakko looks like a male viera more than a feline race
    I honestly wouldn't mind a race that looks like him (if we can adjust the muscle size)
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