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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    People are greatly overestimating the amount of backlash a decision like no male viera would cause. It would be far less of a backlash than what they chose to do with Blue Mage. And so the argument about being hounded for it in interviews holds little weight because the same thing will happen with blue mage.

    SE wasn't afraid to take a job like Blue Mage and make it limited knowing full well the backlash it would cause, they certainly wouldn't be afraid of the backlash about male viera.
    on a community level it might be smaller but the backlash that blu caused was/is down to the community mostly, gender locking will get more media backlash with why now? why Viera? why did you change for old races? you would have to give incredibly good reasons for why or it will sour a lot of reviewers opinions( you can't tell me some games journalists won't jump at the chance for a controversial topic) Competitors may jump on it as well like look we don't gender lock you can play as anything male or female. Gender locking creates a very negative stigma and puts more people off especially now when there are more choices to go play, gender locking races is also 1 step away from gender locked jobs and i certainly do not want that either. People are likely to be way more vocal about this than stuff like glamour if they decide this it will be a mistake imo gender locking races/jobs is always looked down on as a very bad thing by the majority of people and its something 2.0 was very much praised for doing away with
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    on a community level it might be smaller but the backlash that blu caused was/is down to the community mostly, gender locking will get more media backlash with why now? why Viera? why did you change for old races? you would have to give incredibly good reasons for why or it will sour a lot of reviewers opinions( you can't tell me some games journalists won't jump at the chance for a controversial topic) Competitors may jump on it as well like look we don't gender lock you can play as anything male or female. Gender locking creates a very negative stigma and puts more people off especially now when there are more choices to go play, gender locking races is also 1 step away from gender locked jobs and i certainly do not want that either. People are likely to be way more vocal about this than stuff like glamour if they decide this it will be a mistake imo gender locking races/jobs is always looked down on as a very bad thing by the majority of people and its something 2.0 was very much praised for doing away with
    And? Gender and race locked classes are a huge thing in MMO's. Please show me major news articles and movements against all the other competing MMO's that have gender locks? There are plenty of MMO's active in the market now and being successful that have gender locks, with some of the most anticipated upcoming MMO's also having them such as crowfall.

    SE is in a good position with 14, it's more successful than ever and a little controversy, especially about a fictional race, isn't going to cause any significant damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    And? Gender and race locked classes are a huge thing in MMO's. Please show me major news articles and movements against all the other competing MMO's that have gender locks? There are plenty of MMO's active in the market now and being successful that have gender locks, with some of the most anticipated upcoming MMO's also having them such as crowfall.

    SE is in a good position with 14, it's more successful than ever and a little controversy, especially about a fictional race, isn't going to cause any significant damage.
    https://mmos.com/editorials/on-chara...cking-in-games

    https://www.gamingfactors.com/mmorpg...ocked-classes/

    https://www.freemmostation.com/news/...ocked-classes/

    https://www.mmobyte.tv/a-brand-new-u...d-information/

    https://massivelyop.com/2017/08/31/m...asses-in-mmos/

    A few news articles ranging across the years and its very common to see the negative stigma that gender locking brings. Black desert online and Tera could've both been more successful had they not added gender lock on their classes forcing people to play their way rather than the player's way will create attrition.
    SE are in a good position with ffxiv but as a company its not as good and they should rightly be thinking about not stirring the pot too much right now especially after cancelling ffxv dlc and don't think the smallest thing won't set people off if Paranorman can get heavily criticized because of having a gay character (literally get told in last minute of the movie) than ffxiv could easily get criticized for adding gender locked races how much only time will tell if it happens.

    Now all of that is my side so if you can find news articles in favour of gender locking races/jobs i'll be very interested in reading them as be good to get that perspective.
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