Male Viera (BunBros) - We Want Them - With Heels!

[Iscah]

Yes, they posted old concept art, but didn't specify they wanted something like that. And the concept art they posted has them without heels.

I thought the OP's direct question/statement "I'm assuming this image is still legitimate and accurate?" made it quite clear that they were asking for the male Viera as shown in that image.

It's not a long jump to understand that combination as asking for males to have "heels as shown in the concept art", which does indeed show them with unusually-positioned heels, even if that isn't the actual correct term to use.


And I don't think you've ever asked the OP to clarify what they meant by heels.

This was (the relevant part of) your initial response to the topic (#14):

But in all seriousness... Would it be so awful to play a female character? Why does it have to be male? Does it have to be male to be good, fun, strong, aesthetically appealing? Your goal is equality, I'm sure, but there's a hypocritical base to your argument.

And then your second post (#27) is, as far as I can see, the first time anyone brought up the "males as boobless females" image, and you seem to think that other people are asking for "effeminate bunnies" and you want them to be masculine. Then claim that the OP is saying female Viera aren't good enough, when they said nothing of the sort.

Third post (#32), you still haven't asked for clarification on the "heels" statement, but you seem to have assumed that he means "heeled shoes" because you remarked that they're removed on the concept image.


You're arguing against a false impression that you picked up from the original post, and (possibly) only you are thinking of. It's at odds with what the OP was actually asking for, and I don't think the conversation is even connecting properly, with possibly both sides filtering new statements by their misinterpretation of the previous ones.

Nobody else has asked for males that look like females, or proposed that they might look like females.

Nobody has said anything to devalue female Viera, just because they want a counterpart male version - specifically because they want a different design to the female one that has been implemented.

I don't even think anyone else is talking about what they would wear, except that heeled shoes might serve a practical function for a naturally-digitigrade humanoid race.

(I'm not sure that they would be practical, by the way - if they're built to walk that way all the time, they should be able to support themselves without issues. Try doing it yourself - your legs need to be a bit more bent to balance properly, but it's not that uncomfortable. I think heeled shoes would interfere rather than help.)

Another is the whole glamour situation. Where people have asked several times for the glamour to be registered to the job somehow, not the armor the job is wearing. In other words, they would like the universal tank gear to be able to show 3 glamours for each individual tank. Each time that was brought up, they thought they just wanted more glamour plates.

I think that's because it would require a complete rebuild of how the glamour (and possibly overall equipment) system operates. Inventory is notoriously complicated, and I assume they've rigged up the current glamour system to do the best they can within the framework of their hard-to-fix past decisions.

They've come as close as they can by letting you link glamour plates to gearsets, and it would indeed be helpful to have more plates so that version of the system can be useful. Right now there aren't enough plates to store designs for all your classes - especially if you want to do something like crafter glamours which would take up 8/10 of the current plates.

The third was someone asking for gear to be dyed a certain way, as in the shirt can be dyed separately from the corset going over it. They really didn't understand this as a concept, and chose to just talk about the dyeing process in general.

...and probably another item-design issue. Gear will have been programmed to store one piece of dye information. I have no idea how the system works, but I suspect it would be a massive undertaking to reprogram everything to store two dyes - and how each item needs to respond to those two dyes. Assuming they can even fit the extra data onto each item in the first place.

if you noticed in the art panel, they actually had parts of this pic in the collage, so im wondering if thatll be the concept for the males in general, or for the 'child/teen' model for characters similar to honoroit or astrid
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That looks to me like concept art for an adult female, wearing similar clothing (particularly the leg armour) to what's seen on the other concept image. (Presumably for demonstrating the underlying body shape - those wide hips would have been an interesting shape contrast to the Au Ra-ish broad-chested males. Probably impractical for gear modelling though.)