OH GOD NO...

[Dralonis]

I want to see the new Eureka before I judge that. Pyros isn't bad, but I hated Pagos. If this new one is fun or at least interesting, could be looking forward to it. Personally, with Eureka, this is the first time I will finish more than 1 relic weapon. I never finished ARR's weapon. They need to improve it quite a lot though. Not just have it as a NM farm train.

We need options as well as something more for a weekly bonus besides XP once we are max level. Don't really have much of a progression either. Would be nice that if there was something I could work towards to increase the amount of light and crystals we obtain from all sources.

I'd also like more options to solo stuff in there, at least one option. Would be nice to also have a control point that you fight against monsters to gain a XP/Light/Damage buff for everyone in there not just finding an elemental and we have to defend that control point every so often.

[ThirdKeyOfSun]

We need options as well as something more for a weekly bonus besides XP once we are max level.

I agree 100% honestly. How great would it have been if, once you hit max level in a given area, doing your challenge log rewarded crystals, light or both for that specific area when completing each group?

[Reinha]

Arent the alternatives Tome, raid, primal EX and crafted weapons tho?

No. The tome weapon isn't a long term goal, raids+primals require skill and crafting is non-battle content that takes gil. The relic quest and Eureka are easy and grindy ways to get weapons and the former type of content was discontinued. I would like it to return.

A relic quest is a reason for casuals to stay subscribed during those quiet months between patches, something to work towards every time they log in. Tome weapons take 11 dungeon runs and primal weapons take 10 kills so they are not that kind of content. The lack of a relic quest is why I've recently unsubbed for a longer period of time than ever before. Now I'm doing an older relic until my sub runs out again.

[whiskeybravo]

I'd rather see 2x as many Alliance raids and actual 8-man hard mode dungeons.

[Arkdra]

No. The tome weapon isn't a long term goal, raids+primals require skill and crafting is non-battle content that takes gil. The relic quest and Eureka are easy and grindy ways to get weapons and the former type of content was discontinued. I would like it to return.

A relic quest is a reason for casuals to stay subscribed during those quiet months between patches, something to work towards every time they log in. Tome weapons take 11 dungeon runs and primal weapons take 10 kills so they are not that kind of content. The lack of a relic quest is why I've recently unsubbed for a longer period of time than ever before. Now I'm doing an older relic until my sub runs out again.

Yeah this is my major problem as well. I've been playing this game long enough that most of my long term goals are accomplished and the relic quests of old used to give me a reason to log in every day and poke around at something. Without it, I kinda just log in, knock out the 10 minutes of daily chores, and then afk in my house while I play something else and keep an eye out for someone to need help with something fun in game. Usually the relics could suck up a solid month of my time but Eureka is done in the span of a long weekend.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

The vocal players, in this case, are very much a minority. Eureka was well received by many players and is consistently active when I enter any of the maps. If you and the other critics do not like it, that's fine - but many do and have no issue with resources being allocated towards such content.

You can keep Eureka, give us our relics back.

[Wolf_Heartnet]

you know, instead of making terrible instanced content like Eureka, they can instead make open world areas like we have right now but instead make certain areas extremely difficult since people have been asking for hard open-world content. So you not only make the world bigger, but u give people the hard open world that they asked for that is tied to specific quests and still have the normal world that everyone is used to.

Or square could continue to make obviously hated and unwanted content like diadem/eureka.

[SmokeyTheSequel]

This eureka 2.0 talk just leaves me with more unanswered questions. With the introduction of the trust system there is no reason not to make outdoor content like it was in XI. Is the trust system only going to be beneficial for running out of date instant dungeons??? I certainly hope not. We have squadrons that fulfill that role already. If it's to run currently overworld stuff we have chocobos for that and even with those world mobs are a easily soloable. So the question we need to be asking is what purpose does a trust system have if not for open world is it just to replace squadrons or is this eureka 2.0 going to be the sole purpose of utilizing the trust companions?

[Grimr]

i have to put my two cents here eureka 2.0 is just bad plain bad. Anemos was great everything afterwards not even close. Sure maybe pagos was bad but you didn't have "roll" for your stats. Pagos also didn't have annoying bunnies(ok tech it did). If you do bunnies again it is just going to en up like last time people crowd around the easy one and ignore the other. I have had it with eureka. I has gotten old. I have shirked off my other responsibilities in order to do its madness. After i grab my hydros weapon i am done. I may go back and do other last but not until i have a large break from eureka. Feel free to put the relic weapon back in eureka again because it isn't worth it to go a second time. 2.0 3.0 relic weapons plz

[HiroesX81]

Post your sources then.

Now why would I need to go and do a thing like that when you could just as easily go into Pyros yourself and check every person there for a completed weapn? Or maybe go into the Eureka explorers discord with over 200+ ppl with completed relics? Or I dunno how about the numerous posts on reddit asking about whats needed to complete the stats? Then again I can just go into Pyros myself since its been constantly active since implementation save for the day when BLU or a major expac came out? Or wait maybe I can just go to Pier#1 and look around for all the Pyros relics. Even my super casual FC members have completed relics. Because I mean clearly everone is going into Pyros ( the dead content ) merely for the story and bunnies of course. And clearly SE is of the opinion its dead content since I mean 'No ones going to hydatos ".