YoRHa/NieR alliance raid 5.0

[Arkdra]

You're hung up on the one android's clothes.. when i've never mentioned her clothes, or even that wearing a combination of frilly dresses would look out of place; I'll go one further, XIV's clothing line is wide and varied and make a lot of different kinds of styles.

From start to finish though, i was talking about the robots. The giant hulking robots that look out of place against the technologies of the Garlean and Allagan empire. If you want to keep arguing for the waifu who i never said you couldn't find similar clothes for.. go for it, but you're arguing something i never attempted to shoot down (Even though that outfit you linked with is only a poor approximation of the outfit she actually has on).

Ok. This rusty boi is out:



But this googly-eyed terror gets a pass.



So does this glorified 1930's television



And mecha Ape Escape



And this pile of jank that would fit just fine in Nier if you scraped the Garlean logo off



And we definitely can't have this guy



In the same game as



Because for some reason the same jerks who keep making giant metal cities and massive airships can't have a construction robot???

[frostmagemari]

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1)The first picture's robots don't fit within the current aesthetic, as no so far, no Garlean or Allagan machine has had that kind of construction.
2)The second picture is a flesh and blood creature (which may have been from another FF)... you're really stretching with trying to use a Paissa as an argument for robots.
3)The third picture is a replica of something found within Omega's pocket dimensions... and Omega and his designs are a far cry away from the Automata robot designs.
4)The Magitek ride armour would not fit within Automata's robots... the design aesthetic is completely different than the monstrosities that the robots create.
5)Yes, the giant robot made out of girders and scaffolding would not fit within the current aesthetic of robots that the garleans employ, which are normally sleek and rounded.
6)This one is Alexander, and shares a completely different aesthetic from every other Automata robot that you listed.

I'm going to ask you something. Do you know what shared aesthetics are, and why the robots you have in automata do not have a shared aesthetic with the Garlean or Allagan or Alexander's creator? Because i'm thinking you're stopping at "this is a robot, and that is a robot.. they're the same thing!"

[Rowde]

1)The first picture's robots don't fit within the current aesthetic, as no so far, no Garlean or Allagan machine has had that kind of construction.
2)The second picture is a flesh and blood creature (which may have been from another FF)... you're really stretching with trying to use a Paissa as an argument for robots.
3)The third picture is a replica of something found within Omega's pocket dimensions... and Omega and his designs are a far cry away from the Automata robot designs.
4)The Magitek ride armour would not fit within Automata's robots... the design aesthetic is completely different than the monstrosities that the robots create.
5)Yes, the giant robot made out of girders and scaffolding would not fit within the current aesthetic of robots that the garleans employ, which are normally sleek and rounded.
6)This one is Alexander, and shares a completely different aesthetic from every other Automata robot that you listed.

I'm going to ask you something. Do you know what shared aesthetics are, and why the robots you have in automata do not have a shared aesthetic with the Garlean or Allagan or Alexander's creator? Because i'm thinking you're stopping at "this is a robot, and that is a robot.. they're the same thing!"

Why are we jumping to conclusions that the Nier raid will have anything to do with Garlean empire at all? There's no direct correlation until they start throwing Nier style enemies into Castrums in MSQ.


I posted this in another thread already... My running theory for 5.0 story is that a major part of the game is going to take place on whatever world the Warriors of Darkness were from. The possibility of traveling between stars/worlds/dimensions has already been established since the Warriors of Darkness came to our world in the MSQ already. I think the Y'shtola(Matoya), Urianger, and Thancred we've seen so far are bizarro versions from that world, since apparently healers are dps, dps are tanks, and ppl generally wear the completely opposite color of what they wear on our world over there... I think the raid will exist in that world instead which is why the 2B featured in the promotional art has the opposite palette from the flagship 2B from Nier: Automata.

We don't know anything about their world except that it was overrun by the Light instead of the Dark. Maybe there is no empire over there. Maybe there were no Allagans and the Ancient civilization was the Earth from the Nier: Automata series. We don't know yet. So it can't really be said that the aesthetics don't mesh when we have no idea what their actual context will be within the storyline yet.

I will concede that there are definitely ways to do it wrong, but there are also ways for them to do it right. We won't know until it's released.

Please look forward to eeeettt!

[Daralii]

1)The first picture's robots don't fit within the current aesthetic, as no so far, no Garlean or Allagan machine has had that kind of construction.
2)The second picture is a flesh and blood creature (which may have been from another FF)... you're really stretching with trying to use a Paissa as an argument for robots.
3)The third picture is a replica of something found within Omega's pocket dimensions... and Omega and his designs are a far cry away from the Automata robot designs.
4)The Magitek ride armour would not fit within Automata's robots... the design aesthetic is completely different than the monstrosities that the robots create.
5)Yes, the giant robot made out of girders and scaffolding would not fit within the current aesthetic of robots that the garleans employ, which are normally sleek and rounded.
6)This one is Alexander, and shares a completely different aesthetic from every other Automata robot that you listed.

I'm going to ask you something. Do you know what shared aesthetics are, and why the robots you have in automata do not have a shared aesthetic with the Garlean or Allagan or Alexander's creator? Because i'm thinking you're stopping at "this is a robot, and that is a robot.. they're the same thing!"

Allag built drones that are inverted tricycles with saw blades for wheels and have cubes for heads. Garlemald started off Stormblood with multiple instances of research into cyborgs, from Doma Castle to Castrum Abania, and now we know that Varis is bringing back Allagan cloning as a pet project. There's already plenty of weird designs and a lack of design coherence just within the XIV designs, never mind the ones pulled from VI, VII, XIII, and even IX(the Prima Vista).

[Alexandre_Noireau]

Allag built drones that are inverted tricycles with saw blades for wheels and have cubes for heads. Garlemald started off Stormblood with multiple instances of research into cyborgs, from Doma Castle to Castrum Abania, and now we know that Varis is bringing back Allagan cloning as a pet project. There's already plenty of weird designs and a lack of design coherence just within the XIV designs, never mind the ones pulled from VI, VII, XIII, and even IX(the Prima Vista).

That's only because Garlean stuff is basically a mistery to us as players and culture. We have seen a lot of their "Military" infraestructure. But other stuff is as much as a mistery to us. Like their more "civil" architecture, aside takes on the imperial palace doesn't look thaaaat alien. And most of their labs are basically darker, less led iluminated allag stuff. Honestly all their Magitek/Biotek stuff is not that really tearing as inside Hydaelyn verse goes, i mean, every region/culture is pretty significatively explained as to why they have worked so hard to ground these.

Even if we have seen robots, clones, dolls, biotech stuff, etc. Doesn't mean it's all the same, equally viable. Is like saying: Allags worked on cloning and cyborn tech, "light" enemies are very "angelical" and our enemies are obsessed with "reunification" processes...
...SE could do an Neon Genesis Evangelion raid. Maybe Ascians are SEELE.

See where this leads...?