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    redcurrant18's Avatar
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    This might be a reach, but what if the fat chocobo hoodie he had on today was some sort of reference to big chungus? They are both fat and iconic, and he did already wear a bugs bunny shirt before. Maybe that's the foreshadowing for male Viera at Tokyo?



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    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    This might be a reach, but what if the fat chocobo hoodie he had on today was some sort of reference to big chungus? They are both fat and iconic, and he did already wear a bugs bunny shirt before. Maybe that's the foreshadowing for male Viera at Tokyo?
    I think you're onto something.
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    A Big Chungus reference seems.. kind of odd. It would lead me to think that the male Vieras are going to be fat....


    I wouldn’t mind that, actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    This might be a reach, but what if the fat chocobo hoodie he had on today was some sort of reference to big chungus? They are both fat and iconic, and he did already wear a bugs bunny shirt before. Maybe that's the foreshadowing for male Viera at Tokyo?
    I rather have the male version that they depicted in the ivalice alliance story snippet: Survivors from the wilderness of the forest, where only the strong come through and go back to the villages.

    Some people already make their own ideas how they look, a few even seem pretty much spot on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    I rather have the male version that they depicted in the ivalice alliance story snippet: Survivors from the wilderness of the forest, where only the strong come through and go back to the villages.

    Some people already make their own ideas how they look, a few even seem pretty much spot on here.
    Absolutely love this design
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    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    Absolutely love this design
    Damn he looks glorious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaywalker View Post
    ...I'm actually getting upset typing about this, because FFXIV is the fandom I came to specifically to escape and try to find something that's still positive. I've seen a lot of innocent people hurt over this, and honestly I still get scared to talk sometimes even here.

    So argue if you want to, but when you start accusing anyone with any kind of social criticism of being an SJW it makes you look naive. You're very, very lucky you haven't experienced that kind of terror.
    This is the reason that I, when giving critique or outright criticism as I've done here, feel the need to add that I'm not a sjw. I don't want people to think I'd accuse them of horrible things just because they want hot babes in their games/movies etc. If I were to show them my female character in Blade and Soul there would be no doubt though. Lol! She's got assets if ya know what I mean. *hint hint nudge nudge*
    What I dislike is when there is clear favoritism, and that goes both ways. And I don't want my creativity or personal choice to be stifled in a mmorpg.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Honestly, I think it's the perfect time to show male Viera. They're forest wardens who protect the forest and their people. A male Viera WoL has more reason to venture out just like any other race that once had that silly race lock. WoL is driven by fate and 'mama crystal'.

    Times are changing, and it makes sense for the race to evolve with it - they've never had a reason to until now. Just like it makes sense for there to be a WoL Viera Male.
    Yes, yes, a thousand times yes! This is exactly why it would be such a waste if they weren't added. It excites me to think about what amazing stories that I could come up with for my character if he was a Viera!

    Quote Originally Posted by SigilBaram View Post
    The WoL is exceptional. Cultural norms shouldn't limit the WoL's race. Any lore reasoning for gender locking a player race is just an excuse by developers who don't wanting to bother making two models and animation sets. Having one male viera who has the power to change the world leave the Great Wood doesn't break lore. Because remember, lore wise there is only one player character with other players being refereed to, if at all, as adventurers (as in generic members of the adventurer's guild) that help the WoL, not other Warriors of Light.
    ^Thiiiiis!

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    *falls out of chair* Aaaaaand there goes my pants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyan View Post
    This is the reason that I, when giving critique or outright criticism as I've done here, feel the need to add that I'm not a sjw. I don't want people to think I'd accuse them of horrible things just because they want hot babes in their games/movies etc. If I were to show them my female character in Blade and Soul there would be no doubt though. Lol! She's got assets if ya know what I mean. *hint hint nudge nudge*
    What I dislike is when there is clear favoritism, and that goes both ways. And I don't want my creativity or personal choice to be stifled in a mmorpg.
    Honestly I think that's pretty reasonable. For what it's worth, when I saw your previous posts I thought you seemed very frustrated and worried but not threatening the way things get in other fandoms. There have been maybe one or two posts on lodestone by other people that got me a little nervous but the fact that most people reacted along the lines of "what the hell" to them and then just moved on was very reassuring.

    I am pretty confident SE will be fine on the male viera front given their track record and how they've been playing coy on the subject. Worst case scenario if they did the two race thing where male-only race is beastlike while female-only is sexy, I'm positive it would wind up as a repeat of the Roegadyn/Miqo'te situation after a little because there's money there for them. I hope some of this can help you feel less worried!

    And as a last bit from something you mentioned earlier, I actually don't think boycotting would be very effective at influencing game direction since we fall under the "nice and also" category of customers. Celebrating fan ideas about male viera where devs can see as enthusiastically as possible might help though. It basically acts to signal that there is a fan desire for them in a positive way that might spark some inspiration at the same time. There's no obligation, no threats, just letting them know that if they choose to go in that direction it would make people happy and might be a business opportunity for them. Since FFXIV is one of the limited healthy fandoms still around, it's worth treasuring I think.

    Also, a more bishie interpretation I saw of male Viera!
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    Last edited by Jaywalker; 02-04-2019 at 11:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaywalker View Post
    Oh, God damnit! I had just gotten redressed and back comfortably in my chair!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaywalker View Post
    I’m going to be upset if the males aren’t playable. All of these look so good.
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