Gender locked race?

[Divinemights]

What is wrong with gender locked race in a “fantasy” world? People were fine with Mithra being female only and Galla being male only on FF11. Is this another social justice warrior thing?

[Daemon_Windborne]

What is wrong with gender locked race in a “fantasy” world? People were fine with Mithra being female only and Galla being male only on FF11. Is this another social justice warrior thing?

Ummm they werent fine with them being gender locked which is why we now have kitty boys and femroes. A new gender locked race would be a step backwards.

[Divinemights]

Ummm they werent fine with them being gender locked which is why we now have kitty boys and femroes. A new gender locked race would be a step backwards.

Is Viera a female only race in FF12? Yes, they are. Is there a problem with that at time FF12 release? No, there is none. Why are we bend over for social justice warrior now?

[Corue]

What is wrong with gender locked race in a “fantasy” world? People were fine with Mithra being female only and Galla being male only on FF11. Is this another social justice warrior thing?

Because this isn't FF11 and they added the missing sexes for the races. Going back on that now would be a really asinine thing to do.

[Lastelli]

What is wrong with gender locked race in a “fantasy” world? People were fine with Mithra being female only and Galla being male only on FF11. Is this another social justice warrior thing?

Male vieras do exist. I don't see why they shouldn't be a playable race to be honest. There's no logical reason not to have them, aside from wanting Viera to be the sexy bunny race that caters to the male audience...in which case, it would be a little sad.

But I mean, considering the choice for their racial gear, that's already pretty obvious.

[Crushnight]

Is Viera a female only race in FF12? Yes, they are. Is there a problem with that at time FF12 release? No, there is none. Why are we bend over for social justice warrior now?

their not though males existed just never shown in ff12, heres the thing female highlanders, catbois and femroes were added with ARR or 2.0 thus any gender locking on races abolished the devs at the time thought gender locking races was stupid so adding a new race 3 expansions in which would be gender locked is stupid and backwards on how they felt in 2.0

[Canadane]

Ummm they werent fine with them being gender locked which is why we now have kitty boys and femroes. A new gender locked race would be a step backwards.

Coming full circle isn't always a step backwards.

[Lastelli]

Coming full circle isn't always a step backwards.

Well, I think most people would agree that making female-only sexy races and male-only beastly looking races is backward thinking.

By the way, I'm not saying I want sexy ikemen bunnibois. I would be completely fine with the tall and muscular version they showed a while back, as long as it doesn't have the stupid proportions of male au ras.. It's just that having female only vieras seems very wierd to me. Lore reasons aresn't really a good excuse since even female vieras don't normally leave their homes as far as we know.

[Jaywalker]

What is wrong with gender locked race in a “fantasy” world? People were fine with Mithra being female only and Galla being male only on FF11. Is this another social justice warrior thing?

I actually don't think it is for most people. Truly. Most of those are pretty well repelled by the fact that there is any sincere concept of beauty and non-condemnation of fanservice.

A lot of the people who are frustrated I suspect are normal people who just really like freedom in designing characters and playing with aesthetics. Not everyone is into that, but I know that's how it is for me and a chunk of other people. It's why you get comments like "glamour is the true endgame" and whatnot. FFXIV is pretty great about offering players a lot of versatility and creative freedom, which acts as a draw for players who are primarily invested in storytelling and design. Those people don't want their creativity nerfed and want to be able to push into seldom seen (but still visually strong) new territory. I think that's where a lot of the concern comes from.

There is also a camp that has taken the waaaaaaaay more preferable/evenhanded stance that fanservice is fine but it should be equal opportunity. When you get extremists, the argument I've seen is that male fanservice does not exist at all and is impossible while any female fanservice is inherently evil and harmful. The people who are expressing concern in the FFXIV community are pretty moderate compared to that.

[Tsumdere]

Is Viera a female only race in FF12? Yes, they are. Is there a problem with that at time FF12 release? No, there is none. Why are we bend over for social justice warrior now?

They were never a female only race. Also, FFXII was not an MMO where you make and customize your own character. Any RPG or MMO that has fully customizable characters that are supposed to be a stand in for you, the player, are more often than not held under the lens of scrutiny if there is only one gender or gender locked races/classes. This is not new.