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    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    It would be amusing to see what would happen if everyone that wasn't a healer lost raise.

    And then Bard got raise. Just as a little bit of salt in the wound.
    I mean, our LB3 back in ARR used to be a healer LB. I'd rather have that back tbh; not like we get many instances where we get to use our LB3 short of stealing it from someone in a 24-man.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    DoTs are a simple way of evening out damage gradients, and go some way to leveling the dps playing field without overtly effecting skill level.
    They're not necessary, especially for quick classes like RDM or NIN, or BRD, but they have them anyway.
    Given BRD's current implementation, its DoTs are 100% necessary for it to function. They're deeply integrated in a BRD's rotation and are not just "press this button"/"zero maintenance required" skills. They make up quite a bit of our personal damage (along with oGCD usage), and they also interact with our songs to give Repertoire, which give us things like Pitch Perfect and Bloodletter procs. Not to mention Sidewinder's damage is based off of if you actually have your DoTs applied to a target -- 260 potency if both are up, 175 if only one is up, and 100 if neither are up.

    So, yeah they are a bit necessary for BRD and have always been ingrained in their rotation (before it was just with the River of Blood trait for 50% chance to reproc Bloodletter/RoD upon dealing critical damage). We'd be gutted otherwise because we'd lose the DoT damage but also the ability to proc multiple PPs in Minuet, Bloodletter/Rain of Death in Mage's Ballad, and Sidewinder's increased potency.
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I mean, our LB3 back in ARR used to be a healer LB. I'd rather have that back tbh; not like we get many instances where we get to use our LB3 short of stealing it from someone in a 24-man.



    Given BRD's current implementation, its DoTs are 100% necessary for it to function. They're deeply integrated in a BRD's rotation and are not just "press this button"/"zero maintenance required" skills. They make up quite a bit of our personal damage (along with oGCD usage), and they also interact with our songs to give Repertoire, which give us things like Pitch Perfect and Bloodletter procs. Not to mention Sidewinder's damage is based off of if you actually have your DoTs applied to a target -- 260 potency if both are up, 175 if only one is up, and 100 if neither are up.

    So, yeah they are a bit necessary for BRD and have always been ingrained in their rotation (before it was just with the River of Blood trait for 50% chance to reproc Bloodletter/RoD upon dealing critical damage). We'd be gutted otherwise because we'd lose the DoT damage but also the ability to proc multiple PPs in Minuet, Bloodletter/Rain of Death in Mage's Ballad, and Sidewinder's increased potency.
    They're only necessary because they're ingrained within it's mechanics.

    You'd say the same for RDM if Veraero and Verthunder were DoTs and generated 1 mana per tick instead of 11 mana in one go.
    You could just as easily turn BRD's DoTs into frontloaded single hits that give you a crit bonus for x amount of seconds and automatically trigger a songs effect instead of only triggering it when the DoT crits.
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