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  1. #151
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    Baxcel's Avatar
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    Baxcel Farshot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahrijlaken View Post
    Unskippable cutscenes is the most garbage change ever made ... i was shocked when i came back after 2 years break.

    You can watch cutscene in your Room, i always skip cutscene even when it's the first time i do the thing. I watch it later in my room to not disturb other people.
    You do know that there are cutscenes that's can't be rewatched? Until a few patches ago you couldn't even chose other options from viewable scenes.

    They should add a unmovable circle around all players like the ones you get during start of a mission every time a Cut scene starts up and it isn't removed till last person finishes.. So those that wanna skip can.. They just can't Zerg the mission an ruin it for new people
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  2. #152
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    Cynric Zerr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixt View Post
    snip.
    If one bad dungeon almost made you rage quit, lol good luck with mmos
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  3. #153
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    Mixt Bell
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    Lich
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    Paladin Lv 80
    If you were reading a book you enjoyed and someone came along and forced you to skip over half the bloody thing and read the last chapter first while actively insulting you for daring to want to read it in order, how would you feel about it?

    Or if you are watching a movie, and along comes some other guy who forces you to skip right to the end, so the only part you actually get to see is the last five minutes and the credits, and he openly calls you a bad person for wanting to see the rest of it?

    And it was hardly "One Bad Dungeon"
    It was multiple attempts at seeing the story as intended, getting prevented from doing so, leaving the instance, going in and trying again, same thing happening, people ranting at me and calling me names for not speed-running like the rest of them, getting kicked a couple of times, and all around bloody everyone being inconsiderate asshats.

    To this day that section of the MSQ is a jumbled mess in my mind, and the people responsible have nothing but mockery in response to the damage they caused.
    Seeing the post dungeon scenes first is A VERY VERY BAD THING.

    Apply this same experience to thousands of other first timers and you have a huge reeking mess.
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    Last edited by Mixt; 01-25-2019 at 05:03 AM.

  4. #154
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    Kalise Relanah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixt View Post
    And this is why unskippable cutscenes was made a thing.
    This is one of the reasons why I suggest that MSQ content has a solo instance that people can use to complete the content and watch all the cutscenes.

    That way, people who are new to the content, can spend all the time in the world watching cutscenes with no pressure on them and no-one being upset that they have to wait for sprouty mcsprouterson while doing their roulettes.

    While people who don't mind skipping the cutscenes and watching them later, can still queue up for the normal dungeon/trial to get the bonus exp/poetics it will provide (As well as an easy cheesy run through the content getting obliterated by level sync'd roulette farmers)
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  5. #155
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    Ahri Eija
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    Being forced to skip the cutscenes on my first run through completely ruined my experience.
    Watching them at the inn later was a huge mess, with the disjointed timeline jumping all over the place.
    Option 1: "Ruin" only 1 time your experience ( for a shitty story cutscene that you will just don't care in the next minute of your life ) and that you propably watch in your room right after the fight. That not a realy big deal.

    Option 2 :
    Ruin all of your daily roulette exeprience, day after day being forced to watch the same cutscene other and other until you commit suicide.

    People that choose option 2 are crazy person. Being hurt 1 time or being hurt 1 million time and harder ... that basicly the option.
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    Last edited by Ahrijlaken; 01-25-2019 at 06:38 AM.

  6. #156
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    So you are okay with watching scenes out of order, skipping over chunks entirely, having to see the ending before the rest of the media in question, and so on.

    Imagine then any movie you try to watch get's fast forwarded to the end so you have to watch that first, then go back to random sections and watch them out of order, because that's totes okay right? I mean, turnabout is fair play.

    Same deal with books, flip to the last page and make you read that first, then jump back and read chapters out of order.

    Or any other form of media you might care for.

    Sounds like fun right? Not immersion breaking at all.
    Totally nothing wrong with it, nope sir.

    It should also be noted that first time experiences count for a lot.
    Intentionally ruining that for people is a major jerk move.
    First impressions tend to linger.
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    Last edited by Mixt; 01-25-2019 at 07:21 AM.

  7. #157
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahrijlaken View Post
    Option 1: "Ruin" only 1 time your experience ( for a [lousy] story cutscene that you will just don't care in the next minute of your life ) and that you propably watch in your room right after the fight. That not a realy big deal.

    Option 2 :
    Ruin all of your daily roulette exeprience, day after day being forced to watch the same cutscene other and other until you commit suicide.

    People that choose option 2 are crazy person. Being hurt 1 time or being hurt 1 million time and harder ... that basicly the option.
    Those are not "the options". Just because you think the story is worthless and forgettable doesn't mean you can judge that for somebody else. It's not a big deal for you, but it is for others. And the writers clearly intend for it to be a big deal.

    You know what is "an option"? Running the optional roulette to receive the reward that is intended to pay you for the time (rather than effort) spent completing it.

    If it hurts you to do it, don't do it, and leave it for those who are willing to suffer through it - or have developed a coping strategy. Or, heavens forbid, are actually there to enjoy the story and won't forget the experience five minutes later.

    If you are invested in the story it is a genuinely exciting climax, and experiencing it in a coherent, linear sequence will greatly add to that enjoyment. It simply cannot be fully replicated at the inn afterwards.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 01-25-2019 at 09:57 AM.

  8. #158
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahrijlaken View Post
    Option 1: "Ruin" only 1 time your experience ( for a shitty story cutscene that you will just don't care in the next minute of your life ) and that you propably watch in your room right after the fight. That not a realy big deal.

    Option 2 :
    Ruin all of your daily roulette exeprience, day after day being forced to watch the same cutscene other and other until you commit suicide.

    People that choose option 2 are crazy person. Being hurt 1 time or being hurt 1 million time and harder ... that basicly the option.
    This is dumb, there is no B, do it to the conditions given or dont. ITs like id demand 3x the tome from Ex roulett just cause im lazy >_>

    If you dont like it

    Dont
    do
    it.


    Stop telling its ok and a must to skip ANYTHING as a newbie.
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  9. #159
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    Ahri Eija
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    Those are not "the options". Just because you think the story is worthless and forgettable doesn't mean you can judge that for somebody else. It's not a big deal for you, but it is for others.
    Basicly you are saying that im selfish to ask people to accept to ruin their story experience for my suitability ... by being selfish and force everybody else to suffer from being obliged to watch the same shit when they farm their roulette.

    We are talking about skipping just ONE Cutscene in the 300 hours of FF14 full story, this is the only mission like this. You suffer at lot less than people that are forced to watch and waste 30 minutes every day. So if i have to choose between my selfishness and yours, i choose mine. That the only thing that make sense.

    Before this no sense change, it's was perfect and nobody ask SE to make this change. Nobody was complaining about it in fact.

    If you dont like it Dont do it.
    That funny, i don't like the cutscene but i still have to " do it " ...
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    Last edited by Ahrijlaken; 01-25-2019 at 09:08 PM.

  10. #160
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ahrijlaken View Post
    ...force everybody else to suffer from being obliged to watch the same shit when they farm their roulette...
    That roulette is completely optional and you can skip it, cannot see how you think people are "obliged": rewards and time of completion are well known, so if you queue it, you weighted pro and cons and decided to queue.

    When you skip cutscenes by the dc/relog trick, you are taking advantage of a game system bug (cuscene not played at relog) and exploiting it during your gameplay.
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