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  1. #131
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    Teraluna's Avatar
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    Tera Luna
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post


    'Designed for solo play' is literally the first bullet point on the first slide.
    Oof! Nailed it there.
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  2. #132
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    Amelia Wafflesmack
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post


    'Designed for solo play' is literally the first bullet point on the first slide.
    'Not Suited for Parties'... Just go and form parties to play the job and get skills! smh.

    It's disappointing. I was looking forward to play the job whenever I have some free time and noone is around. Having fun being OP and just slaying all enemies without effort. I dislike the fact that I have to bother other ppl to help me getting the skills, ofc my friends are happy to help, but it's simply not what SE promoted and therefore im going to skip BLU for now. Maybe some changes in the future will make it more interesting for me, but right now it's meh.
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    I don't know, man.

  3. #133
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post


    'Designed for solo play' is literally the first bullet point on the first slide.
    Is there someone who knows japanese can tell me if the translated text in english matches the japanese text regarding solo play?

    There's always quite some hair splitting in those details.
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  4. #134
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    Choco Feru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post


    'Designed for solo play' is literally the first bullet point on the first slide.
    You're ignoring the last sentence.
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  5. #135
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    Magia Dragonnier
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
    You're ignoring the last sentence.
    The second bullet literally says "not suited for parties". What else could that mean? If they were specifically referring to the Masked Carnivale, then they wouldn't need to say the same thing twice in one slide. The last sentence, after the second bullet, is literally only saying that "hey, even though this job CAN be in parties, we need to clarify that the Masked Carnivale is a solo duty" and it is not saying "when we say BLU is designed for solo, we mean the Masked Carnivale".
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  6. #136
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    Teraluna's Avatar
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    Tera Luna
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
    You're ignoring the last sentence.
    It says 'can learn abilities' - not forced to, The lines that hit people are Designed for Solo Play & Not Suited for Parties.
    What could be more of a definition than those two headline statements about the class?

    Designed for Solo, Not Suited for Parties v the actual - Forced to non-Solo, Forced to Party.
    If this was a consumer product, people would just go back and get a refund.
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbs View Post
    The second bullet literally says "not suited for parties". What else could that mean? If they were specifically referring to the Masked Carnivale, then they wouldn't need to say the same thing twice in one slide. The last sentence, after the second bullet, is literally only saying that "hey, even though this job CAN be in parties, we need to clarify that the Masked Carnivale is a solo duty" and it is not saying "when we say BLU is designed for solo, we mean the Masked Carnivale".

    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    It says 'can learn abilities' - not forced to, The lines that hit people are Designed for Solo Play & Not Suited for Parties.
    What could be more of a definition than those two headline statements about the class?

    Designed for Solo, Not Suited for Parties v the actual - Forced to non-Solo, Forced to Party.
    If this was a consumer product, people would just go back and get a refund.
    Ok then, let's change the point of view to see if it helps to understand;

    SE didn't state that BLU was meant to solo dungeons. Prove it if I'm wrong.
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
    SE didn't state that BLU was meant to solo dungeons
    Then the problem is SE locked BLU skills behind those non-soloable dungeons.
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  9. #139
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    Magia Dragonnier
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
    Ok then, let's change the point of view to see if it helps to understand;

    SE didn't state that BLU was meant to solo dungeons. Prove it if I'm wrong.
    SE also didn't state that BLU was meant to party up. But what they DID state was that, as you can clearly see in the above screenshot, that it was meant for solo play and wasn't designed for parties. They also stated that it was SO OVERPOWERED that it would break current content. Both of these things imply it is capable of soloing most or all content.

    There's nothing to prove wrong. Everyone knows they didn't state explicitly that, but they certainly implied it, intentionally or no.
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  10. #140
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    Is there someone who knows japanese can tell me if the translated text in english matches the japanese text regarding solo play?

    There's always quite some hair splitting in those details.
    I’m not a native speaker, but I’ve studied Japanese for several years now, so take this as you will...

    コツコツとソロで楽しむ育成型
    — This one is tricky:
    “コツコツ” is onomatopoeia, and it can mean “steadily” (like the steady tapping of something), while “ソロで楽しむ” literally means “enjoy solo” or “participate solo”; 育成 means “rearing, training, cultivation, or promotion”; 型 means “mould, type, model”.
    So I’m translating it as “Model that steadily participates solo”.
    A bit awkward sounding. While researching, I also read a definition for コツコツ as “little by little”... may ask my professor about it when I see her today.

    パーティコンテンツには向かない
    — “Not suitable for party content” — direct translation.
    “パーティコンテンツ” is “party content”.
    “向かない” means “not suitable”; the verb 向く can mean “to be suited for”.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

    마지막 날 널 찾아가면
    마지막 밤 기억하길

    Hyomin Park#0055

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