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  1. #121
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Call me a troll if you like. I find it funny that my simple questions are so jampacked with trickery though.

    There's nothing blu can do solo that no other job is similarly capable of solo. By any stripe blu can be called solo, any other job can be too. Rdm is a solo job, it can solo to the bottom of potd and the top of hoh.

    Similarly you won't outline what you find a "good argument" instead hoping that we give up because you have answers to some of the arguments brought up. There's not going to be a single argument that Yoshi couldn't handwave in some way. A lot of really good arguments get handwaved away and due to the nature of questioning, a dialectic can't be opened with him to continue any discussion past the first handwave.
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  2. #122
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    In a random fit of more wasted potential, I just realized you have no spells from Good King Moggle Mog XII, may his splendid Pom remain ever bounciful, Kupo.
    Simple, it will be our futur Limite Break ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    All I want is one expansion where they reanalyze the jobs and make massive adjustments to unhomogenize them. This is Final Fantasy 14 not Club penguin I dont wish for jobs that only have 5 buttons going for them or play exactly the same as 2/3 other jobs.
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    This current card system needs to be unwritten, destroyed and never returned.

  3. #123
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceasaria View Post
    Simple, it will be our futur Limite Break ^^
    Don't play with my heart like this
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  4. #124
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    Hector Dragonslayer
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    The only ting I have found useful for BLU is the exp buff for companion as I started BLU my companion was only rank 2. I'm now level 46 BLU and my companion is rank 9. Of course this more than likely will be nerfed.

    Overall the rotations are suspect at best. I personal cant stand level increment spells like level 5 petrify or level x number death. I feel like the BLU concept should be made for utility only.

    If, however they were to implement this you have to add other jobs with utility or create new classes. Not likely.

    I have no doubt SE will do something of course but for better or worse, BLU seems like a good idea on paper but terrible execution on gaming.
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  5. #125
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    Yeah, they dropped the ball massively.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whanext View Post
    First of all, it is a good thing that SE is trying something new; however, they did not make blue mage right.

    As a solo job, 24 out of 49 spells are locked behind dungeons/trials. There is no way or extremely hard to solo them. Even if you can solo it with extremely long time, the spell is also locked behind rng drop. As a solo job, you cannot have fun by just playing solo is a mess.
    BLU is not a "solo" job, for now. The "solo" aspect was stated only on Carnival.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whanext View Post
    Either make blue mage super broken to be able to solo everything, or make blue mage into a proper job.

    Blue mage is not broken and is also restricted out of duty finder is terrible. You have to rely on other people with lv70 to carry you through defeats the purpose of the concept of solo job. Blue mage has so much potential, but current design is just a waste of time.
    - It doesn't have to be broken.
    - You don't need to rely on people with lv70 to carry you. You can form a full party of BLU and complete any lv50 content, even extreme. Remember that you can tank, heal and DPS.

    BLU doesn't fit the actual overworld, that's why he's a long-term job and needs to be limited for now. Maybe at future updates (with Beastmaster) we'll get a better overworld to play with and BLU and new jobs to fit new game styles.
    We have tons of other jobs to do lv70 content anyways. I'd rather get new stuff to do, like BLU, instead of another generic job.
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  7. #127
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    Burningskull's Avatar
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    Markov Dracul
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
    - You don't need to rely on people with lv70 to carry you. You can form a full party of BLU and complete any lv50 content, even extreme. Remember that you can tank, heal and DPS..
    Good luck with that. I've tried a few full BLU parties. Some times they work, most of the time the tank gets one shot or the other BLUs run out of MP trying to get the tank healed cause BLU doesn't have the defense to tank, regardless of Mighty Guard.
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  8. #128
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    That's cuz BLUs be wearing fabric
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  9. #129
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
    BLU is not a "solo" job, for now. The "solo" aspect was stated only on Carnival.


    'Designed for solo play' is literally the first bullet point on the first slide.
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  10. #130
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    I will concede that that slide is misleading. Designed for solo play = designed for Masked Carnivale. Its kit isn't meant to support anything else. Not Suited for Parties = despite being a Ranged Magic DPS, BLU doesn't actually fit into that niche. In part because it hits like a wet noodle and therefore can't perform a DPS' main objective.
    But if that's really what they meant, then whoever put together that presentation should never work on PR related things again. Because what's actually written in the slide, the first intuitive interpretation of it, and what it likely means (mind, still an interpretation, just one that's more in-line with what we actually got) are so detached from each other any relation is coincidental at best.

    Doesn't really change the fact that BLU needs to be carried for most of its kit, which is a problem in and of itself.
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