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  1. #41
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Now that the state of something new has worn off for me surrounding BLU, I have to say...

    While I suppose I can thank SE for trying again at something new, I won't say thank you for BLU or the limited job system.

    I'm not in favor of a job that cannot use duty finder, but is unable to solo content to learn their skills. It forces an extra step of manually looking for people and socialization that you otherwise get playing the game normally on a job tied to one of the trinity roles. While I know the term they associated with BLU was "solo" and I acknowledge that does not mean the job could solo dungeons, I find it in bad taste that I can't even take squadrons in with the job. That's a perfectly missed opportunity on another experimental content that would have meshed well with this content.

    Outside of leveling the job, learning skills and conquering the Masked Carnivale, there's nothing to do with the class. It's not like it can solo dungeons, go with a squadron or really do anything other than strike a fairly fabulous pose. I actually would have preferred, at this point, for SE to make BLU just like the other DPS classes, but have some skills named after monster skills, learned through job quests. At a base level, BLU is the same as the other DPS classes (some skills are worthless, some are for AoE and used in tandem with other skills, there's buffs to use, DoTs to keep up - basically a rotation of sorts).

    I do sincerely hope this is just a proof of concept and more will be done with the system, because I sure don't want other limited jobs if this is what we're receiving.
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  2. #42
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    Rokke's Avatar
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    Novia Marius
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    I would love to see this idea fleshed out even more so, maybe even have stuff like an alternative Summoner down the road, Puppetmaster, Beastmaster, Dancer, etc.
    Pls don’t do my dream job dirty like this. I want a job-job not a mini game.
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  3. #43
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    Valdegarde's Avatar
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    Hildegarde Rosea
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    Lamia
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    Pls don’t do my dream job dirty like this. I want a job-job not a mini game.
    Speaking as someone who's dream job was Blue Mage...
    I hope so too.
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  4. #44
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    To be honest not how I saw those two coming together lol, as an FFXI player as well I'm a bit sad I can't play Blue Mage as a main again. I loved playing blue mage in FFXI and can't really do that here except for a few minutes on resets and occasional patches . I also missed some of the passive elements from FFXI, although I understand that created some scenarios where you had a skill literally just for the bonus - certainly interesting combos being a reason would be a better reason to hold something lol. Although right now I already have more than half my kit being spells I don't really care about, at least a passive would give me a better feeling - combos being more interesting though if they can add more.

    Same starting place different feelings .
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  5. #45
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    I would love to see this idea fleshed out even more so, maybe even have stuff like an alternative Summoner down the road
    It's sad when you realize that BLU's Primal skills make them a more convincing Summoner then the Summoner class.
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  6. #46
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    Edax's Avatar
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Distinguished_Anarchist View Post
    Good games generally have a habit of making money right out of the gate.
    Strange how all those bad AAA games have a habit of making money right of the gate too. Perhaps there's a correlation.
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  7. #47
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    Lluw Tharias
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    Pls don’t do my dream job dirty like this. I want a job-job not a mini game.
    Why? It'll just be another generic healer (or melee DPS) anyway to play in boring content like dungeons, trials, raids and MSQ. Who plays this game for that content anyway? You already have WHM, AST and SCH to heal. Play with those. Why not have Dancer be a mini game instead? I know I play this game for the mini games!
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    Last edited by TheHeavenAbyss; 01-20-2019 at 11:06 AM.

  8. #48
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHeavenAbyss View Post
    Why? It'll just be another generic healer anyway to play in boring content like dungeons, trials, raids and MSQ. Who plays this game for that content anyway? You already have WHM, AST and SCH to heal. Play with those. Why not have Dancer be a mini game instead? I know I play this game for the mini games!
    I feel like my sarcasm is broken, I had to go back and read a few comments to make sure I got it right lol. The only reason why I'm not sure is because a fairly common argument against blue (not the only), that SE has ran out of job ideas and there is no way to interestingly implement blue mage because all damage dealing mage ideas are gone - blue mage MUST be generic. Or that all the jobs in the game are generic, so why add another. I'm sad of that reasoning because it makes it out to be like SE is just out of ideas then, which I don't believe but seems to be a thought that exists.

    As an aside I do believe they could add "limited" content to Dancer in that of a bard like composing (but for dance and theater like elements). But of course I believe in "advanced jobs", where it's a main job with limited side elements (and prefer not to have exclusively limited concepts).
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  9. #49
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    TheHeavenAbyss's Avatar
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    Lluw Tharias
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    Phoenix
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I feel like my sarcasm is broken, I had to go back and read a few comments to make sure I got it right lol. The only reason why I'm not sure is because a fairly common argument against blue (not the only), that SE has ran out of job ideas and there is no way to interestingly implement blue mage because all damage dealing mage ideas are gone - blue mage MUST be generic. Or that all the jobs in the game are generic, so why add another. I'm sad of that reasoning because it makes it out to be like SE is just out of ideas then, which I don't believe but seems to be a thought that exists.

    As an aside I do believe they could add "limited" content to Dancer in that of a bard like composing (but for dance and theater like elements). But of course I believe in "advanced jobs", where it's a main job with limited side elements (and prefer not to have exclusively limited concepts).
    Yes, it was sarcasm. Sorry if it wasn't obvious lol. I believe there is a lot of ways to implement Blue Mage and make it feel faithful, at least as much as FFXIV jobs are faithful to their original counterparts, and I've seen many people sharing ideas of how it could be done, some more realistic than others. I believe that almost anything in terms of game design can be done with imagination, and I don't think the last jobs we got (Red Mage and Samurai) show any indication that SE is running out of ideas for new jobs. If anything, it's BLU that appears to indicate that SE couldn't be bothered to think of a better way to make it work so just gave us this limited job thing.
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    Last edited by TheHeavenAbyss; 01-20-2019 at 11:23 AM.

  10. #50
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    So you guys would rather have Blue Mage play like every other class in this game? In the same boring treadmill, in the same boring rotations, in the same boring meta? Heaven forbid we have something we have to think outside of the box for instead of the same 2x4 box we've been using since the game came out.
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