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[JohnSpawnVFX]

What do you guys make of the change of conditions for penalty of leaving duty? It's a bit confusing. Does that mean you always get a penalty for leaving, even if the party is incomplete (because someone left already)?

[CaptainLagbeard]

What do you guys make of the change of conditions for penalty of leaving duty? It's a bit confusing. Does that mean you always get a penalty for leaving, even if the party is incomplete (because someone left already)?

I don't know, the wording could also be interpreted as that the first person to leave only gets punished.

[Sylve]

What do you guys make of the change of conditions for penalty of leaving duty? It's a bit confusing. Does that mean you always get a penalty for leaving, even if the party is incomplete (because someone left already)?

The way I understood it was that if a party of 4 Vote Dismiss a player, leaving 3 in the duty, the first to leave after that will still get the penalty.
I've seen some Tanks attempt to kick a random player so they can quit the dungeon without penalty. Usually people will just blindly say yes to a Vote Dismiss.

That still seems like a rather niche case though. Something must have happened to cause them to change it like this.

[HyoMinPark]

What do you guys make of the change of conditions for penalty of leaving duty? It's a bit confusing. Does that mean you always get a penalty for leaving, even if the party is incomplete (because someone left already)?

I wondered if it was worded to mean that, the first person who abandons a duty still gets the penalty, but the penalty applies even after something like kicking a player first so that they can subsequently leave without getting it. Friend of mine said he wonders if it applies to everyone abandoning a duty now, but I think that’s unlikely, as the wording explicitly says “the first to leave a duty”.

Tbh, the wording is a bit confusing and vague.

[Alaina]

It's about time...

[jameseoakes]

It's about time...

My worry is that if they're like the PVP horses then they won't have done anything to make them fly and they'll just look horrendous

[Vahlnir]

It's about time...

That only took 3 years. Happy to see it though for sure.

[StouterTaru]

What do you guys make of the change of conditions for penalty of leaving duty? It's a bit confusing. Does that mean you always get a penalty for leaving, even if the party is incomplete (because someone left already)?

Foreign language versions sometimes give less ambiguous explanations, although sometimes they are wrong. Any French/German speakers around?

Avant
Une pénalité s'applique aux joueurs quittant une mission alors que leur équipe comporte le nombre maximal de participants prévu.

Après
Une pénalité s'applique au premier joueur quittant une mission, dès lors qu'elle a commencé.

Vorher
Eine Strafe wird gegen Spieler verhängt, die einen Spielinhalt verlassen, obwohl die Gruppe bereits vollständig war.

Nachher
Eine Strafe wird gegen Spieler verhängt, die einen Spielinhalt als Erste verlassen, obwohl der Spielinhalt bereits begonnen hat.

[Legion88]

Foreign language versions sometimes give less ambiguous explanations, although sometimes they are wrong. Any French/German speakers around?

German:
There will be a penality for the first player leaving a duty after it started.

[Reynhart]

German:
There will be a penality for the first player leaving a duty after it started.

Same for French.

So, I guess you can receive a penatly when leaving an undersized party.