Thread: 4.5 Patch notes are live

I wanted them to reduce whm recast time like they did to ast, but I'll take the enmity change.
Monk only received a 1-3% increase in damage and the drg treatment, so you get less penalized if you can't do your positionals right, I wish they could have found a better way to dump aggro instead of purification, monk loses 250 potency from doing it and sam only like 10, it's dumb.
I wasn't expecting drk fixes, but I wanted them.
Glamours are "real world modern fashion" trash as always.
Tanks and melee taking 30% less damage and dealing 15% more in frontline are the best changes to me.
Elbst still can't fly.
and yeah, the penalty change when leaving duty is so you don't get penalized if someone joins the moment you're leaving.

Honestly i find the penalties still too tame. Anyone who chooses to leave the instance without a vote abandon having happened and passed should get a penalty. Sure youll get less capable allies now and then, but the trick is to help also them trough and maybe teach them something on the way in good manners. Multiplayer instances are a teamsport after all.

The patch notes have some really amazing stuff in it. Melees and Tanks got some buffs in rival wings and FL. Brute Justice has half the HP, but is stronger.
Placeholder buffs are pretty meh, but they said as much
Finally, flying primal mounts. Egi glams next maybe?
Glitchless lofts? OH BOY!


But then we get to BLU, now revealed to be unable to do two of the mainly solo things. The MSQ and Squad Missions. Like, you can't even level a job to 50, switch to BLU and continue the story from there with premades helping you in the dungeon. Just straight up banned from the story. Why exactly?


And then if you want to level a bit in dungeons solo with your squad, you can't even do that. Again...why? BLU is pretty much forced to only kill overworld mobs and nothing else unless they have a premade holding their hand through some instances. Isn't this supposed to be the solo job not designed for parties?


And now we have item turn-ins for learning skills too. So that's from mobs, quests, and items now. Quite the "real" BLU aimright?

Originally Posted by BubblyBoar

And now we have item turn-ins for learning skills too. So that's from mobs, quests, and items now. Quite the "real" BLU amiright?

Quest is, AFAIK, completely new, but items...directly taken from FFVIII. So, yeah, quite the real BLUs. We still have the "kill a weakened enemy with a specific skill" or "draw the spell directly from the mob" types of learning to cover

Eveything else...yeah, it's stupid to restrict BLU from doing the MSQ...no arguing there.

The thing is you can't unlock BLU unless you compete a level 50 MSQ anyway, and with BLU being limited to 50 anyway at that point there is no MSQ to even do with it. Of course you could still go in to duties as a pre-formed party, just no match making and roulettes etc.

Originally Posted by Reynhart

Quest is, AFAIK, completely new

So why stop there? Why not build on that? They claim to be so strict with the "BLU experience" but are obviously straying from it when they feel like it, too.

So, yeah, quite the real BLUs.

After everything, this feels like they're moving the goalposts.

We still have the "kill a weakened enemy with a specific skill" or "draw the spell directly from the mob" types of learning to cover

I rather they invested in content not limited to the one LJ.

Originally Posted by Reynhart

Quest is, AFAIK, completely new, but items...directly taken from FFVIII. So, yeah, quite the real BLUs. We still have the "kill a weakened enemy with a specific skill" or "draw the spell directly from the mob" types of learning to cover

Eveything else...yeah, it's stupid to restrict BLU from doing the MSQ...no arguing there.

That's right, but iirc the items are drops from monsters anyway, so it's still all about beating enemies to collect skills, right?

Originally Posted by RukiaFae

Anyone noticed that two quests are called Emissary of light and Will of the moon at the bottom?

4.4 MSQ quests

Originally Posted by TheHeavenAbyss

That's right, but iirc the items are drops from monsters anyway, so it's still all about beating enemies to collect skills, right?

Yeah that's not how it's going to be done in XIV, from what it looks like in the patch notes.

Originally Posted by Reynhart

Quest is, AFAIK, completely new, but items...directly taken from FFVIII. So, yeah, quite the real BLUs.

Exactly, which is inconsistent with the justification behind their current restrictions. (that a real Blue Mage job HAS to be implemented with direct enemy observation in the overworld and thus cannot be balanced)
If a REAL Blue Mage has quite a bit of history and factors contributing to it and differing methods of implementation and balance, some of these overall restrictions and design decisions make less sense.