Thread: 4.5 Patch notes are live

Not sure if the WHM changes where actually worth spending time on. They seem to be a list of near nothings unfortunately.

Regarding the changes to the penalty for abandoning duty, I think it just means the penalty now applies only to the first person to abandon a duty after it has begun*, and not subsequent deserter(s).

If I'm not mistaken, currently, if someone else leaves a duty first, and then you decide to leave as well, but a replacement was found and thus returning the party to full status before you leave, you will also get penalized. Now, that won't be the case any more. As soon as someone leaves after the duty began*, you can leave without penalty.

*What determines when a duty begins is another matter. It's probably just when the instance itself begins, but it could also count each separate pull as separate starting points.

Oh boy I can't wait to see what new monstrosity will spawn and wipe players as they approach the objective in order to unlock the new Ivalice raid.

Originally Posted by AxHell

Oh boy I can't wait to see what new monstrosity will spawn and wipe players as they approach the objective in order to unlock the new Ivalice raid.

I hope/fear another Red Chocobo Ex.

The tl;dr for Pagos is: the train is back. Level to 25 in Anemos, find someone to ferry you to both Aetherites and then you are back in business again.

It's about time...

Originally Posted by KaivaC

I hope/fear another Red Chocobo Ex.

Red giant chickens running around, while rocks fall from the heavens and corpses lay on the ground is something that I never expected to experience in Final Fantasy, but I'm glad I did

Originally Posted by Alaina

It's about time...

My worry is that if they're like the PVP horses then they won't have done anything to make them fly and they'll just look horrendous

Originally Posted by linay

If I'm not mistaken, currently, if someone else leaves a duty first, and then you decide to leave as well, but a replacement was found and thus returning the party to full status before you leave, you will also get penalized. Now, that won't be the case any more. As soon as someone leaves after the duty began*, you can leave without penalty.

I think you're right. While the deserter penalty doesn't apply to people who have joined the duty already in progress, it was said in a thread a while ago that any original member leaving the party after it filled again still got the penalty.

Abandoning a duty first after it has begun.

I think the 'first' is the key word here, and in that case, this is actually a softening of the blow, since I doubt "after a duty has begun" could mean anything other than the magical walls dropping and the 'duty commence' banner showing. This does mean, however, that people who manage to abandon before that happened would still be unpenalized. But eh.