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  1. #31
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    I'm ok with a duel feature and/or organized PvP areas such as a coliseum or arena type setting, and competitive warzone type areas (Like ballista/diorama PVP from FF11). But... Open world PVP can't and won't happen in Final Fantasy XIV.

    First off, it was already stated that it never would, by both directors. The very idea of world pk'ing would entirely ruin any and all PVE style content currently in the game. Final Fantasy XIV, like XI, will continue to have big world NM's that drop loot all the way through its entire life time. They have said time and time again they plan to continue to introduce content like this, as well as instanced dungeon type areas. Now, any time you're doing world PvE, a rival LS could show up and massacre you and steal the NM. This is the entire basis of the reason as to why both directors flat out said there will be no world pk'ing in FFXIV. They said they wish to foster the idea that its the players against the world, not the players against each other. It's a united people battling a larger, more powerful threat. Welcome to FInal Fantasy games.

    Lets not forget the worst part of PVP in any game though... The nerf fests. One job excels slightly more than another in a pvp game? Bam, its good skills are nerfed, and its now only marginally effective in PvE because people whined about the job being OP in PvP situations. Then it happens to the next best class, and never ends. Its a constant stream of nerfs. Look at WoW, it has never stopped happening since they released arenas.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    With the glut of PvP MMOs out there at the moment, FFXIV is filling a very important niche. Any direction you look you can find an MMO with open world PvP... but it's a lot harder to find a pure PvE MMO.
    Agreed. That's one reason I'm here. I want to get away from PvP and get back to PvE with a focus on cooperation.

    If world PvP was implemented, this would no longer be a game I'm interested in playing.

    The point is moot. Yoshi-P said there will be no PKing. And if there will be no separate servers for region, platform or playstyle (such as RP), I seriously doubt a PvP server will happen, either.

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    Instanced PvP is more than welcome. Open World PvP should be avoided like the plague. Aside from the less than desirable player elements, having to go through and re-balance every aspect of the combat system so both PvP and PvE are viable is horribly tedious work. Instanced PvP (a controlled environment) is much easier and less time consuming to balance overall.
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    Last edited by Myri; 03-22-2011 at 09:05 PM.

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    Blanancing PvP doesnt have to effect PvE. Having the attacks do different dmgs depending on whether the thing you're attacking is a mob or alternative a player is the most obvious solution.

    Anyway, Linkshells fighting over world NMs is part of the chaos and intrigue of OWPvP. And I'm not entirely convinced it would destroy the integrity of the game.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMX View Post
    I'm ok with a duel feature and/or organized PvP areas such as a coliseum or arena type setting, and competitive warzone type areas (Like ballista/diorama PVP from FF11). But... Open world PVP can't and won't happen in Final Fantasy XIV.

    First off, it was already stated that it never would, by both directors. The very idea of world pk'ing would entirely ruin any and all PVE style content currently in the game. Final Fantasy XIV, like XI, will continue to have big world NM's that drop loot all the way through its entire life time. They have said time and time again they plan to continue to introduce content like this, as well as instanced dungeon type areas. Now, any time you're doing world PvE, a rival LS could show up and massacre you and steal the NM. This is the entire basis of the reason as to why both directors flat out said there will be no world pk'ing in FFXIV. They said they wish to foster the idea that its the players against the world, not the players against each other. It's a united people battling a larger, more powerful threat. Welcome to FInal Fantasy games.

    Lets not forget the worst part of PVP in any game though... The nerf fests. One job excels slightly more than another in a pvp game? Bam, its good skills are nerfed, and its now only marginally effective in PvE because people whined about the job being OP in PvP situations. Then it happens to the next best class, and never ends. Its a constant stream of nerfs. Look at WoW, it has never stopped happening since they released arenas.
    More or less this. I'm ok with a friendly, for-fun arena, but serious PvP, no. I do believe it would destroy the camraderie.

    To be honest, I'm really glad SE is branching out into MMO's, because I know they will promote good communities. It wouldn't hurt for some to think a tad less about self and a tad more about community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serio View Post
    Yoshi-P starts casting Sleepga IV on Yoshi-P.
    Yoshi-P is asleep.
    The Troll hits Yoshi-P for 9000 damage!
    Yoshi-P is no longer asleep!

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    I'm against open world pvp.

    Now duels, games etc. I'd love that!
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    World PvP would ruin the game. Instanced PvP, such as in 11, would be acceptable because the *** players would not be able to ruin someone's day by being ***
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    World PvP would ruin the game. Instanced PvP, such as in 11, would be acceptable because the *** players would not be able to ruin someone's day by being ***
    Yeah, tell that to the gil-sellers and claimbots you can't PK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    Yeah, tell that to the gil-sellers and claimbots you can't PK.
    Idc. I'm fine with not being able to PK bots because if we can PK them, then we would also be able to PK lower level people that are just trying to grind.

    Also, lol @ d.o.u.c.h.e. being marked as inappropriate...
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    Banking on people not going overboard or killing out of sheer urge to troll/grief is a big mistake. People can and will ruin someone's day early and often, regardless of the penalties. Open world PvP is an awful idea, especially in a game with such a large PvE focus. I could see gatherers especially getting the short end of the stick as they're basically sitting ducks most of the time.

    Duels are okay, arenas are okay, structured and organized PvP is more than okay. Open world free-for-all PvP is a big NO.
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