Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
SAM as well if they don't use Diversion properly. Their aggro reducer is based off of Third Eye and when they do use it, most use Hitsassu: Seigen for dps.
Seigan is a negligible loss. You'll have to use it sparingly assuming proper Shriks and Diversion usage. It's far less of an impact than Forbidden Charka. The bigger issue for MNK is they can't control Pacification. If they don't have stacks, they're just screwed. There's typically enough aoe going out SAM can make it work.

Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
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There is a significant difference between current raid buffs and what a pure support job would have to offer. Taking my aforementioned figure, 7,500 rdps exclusively through buffs amounts to 1,071 for each individual party member. This immediately becomes mandatory because people like seeing their personal numbers balloon up. A prime example of this was 3.4 Astro. No one gave a damn WHM could contribute just fine. They wanted 10% aoe Balance. A pure support job is 3.4 Balance on steroids.

Even if it wasn't a pure support job but one which heavily favored it. The same argument applies. People will prioritize having a job that buffs their numbers.