So people are defending the msq dc exploit

[Kuroka]

lol i see an easy hotfix for this, each player has to end the CS so if you DC it just starts over, that would be fun xD

[Rosa_Frandlia]

lol i see an easy hotfix for this, each player has to end the CS so if you DC it just starts over, that would be fun xD

And help with other CS's too! I was viewing the one where Gogetsu gets captured and never saw him captured as I was attacked during it until I watched it in the unending journal. I also missed the discovery of Vivi when a que popped as I was in the Cut Scene and it kicked me out, again needing to re-watch at an inn. I'd love it for all CS's including those we can skip!

[KaivaC]

lol i see an easy hotfix for this, each player has to end the CS so if you DC it just starts over, that would be fun xD

Raubahn Savage and Pipin Ex would like to have a word with you.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

And help with other CS's too! I was viewing the one where Gogetsu gets captured and never saw him captured as I was attacked during it until I watched it in the unending journal. I also missed the discovery of Vivi when a que popped as I was in the Cut Scene and it kicked me out, again needing to re-watch at an inn. I'd love it for all CS's including those we can skip!

? You missed it probably because you skipped it before accepting the duty. If you just accept it mid-cutscene, it kicks you back to before you talked to the NPC that gives you the cutscene (or series of cutscenes). You also can't get attacked mid-cutscene, even if enemies were already attackign you before you talked to the NPC. If you manage to start up the cutscene in those conditions, you go invincible and the enemy de-aggroes you. Same reason why people can start up a CS in the middle of battle on Castrum and no one dies, except if they skip it (when you still could).

[BillyKaplan]

People in this thread have really good ideas to making people unsubscribe from the game.

[Kuroka]

Besides speaking of first time visits like were now gonna have on 4.5, JUST. DONT. RUN. IT,

[BillyKaplan]

Besides speaking of first time visits like were now gonna have on 4.5, JUST. DONT. RUN. IT,

Just because I have to run it once doesn't negate the fact it's bad design. Especially when "once" is a lie if people have alts and have to run it once per character.

[Ilan]

That's a lot of ignorant assumptions out of you.

Maybe some people understand what it takes to make for a decent gaming experience; let alone an immersive story, especially in an role-playing games where that's literally the objective of the genre.

Again, if the devs changed it to be this way, there's probably a reason.

Besides that long and unskipable CS in the middle of a dungeon are not a good design choice in an mmo. You put something like this in solo content and let the players decide if they want to see it or not.

[kikix12]

When I turned it back on and submitted my score, I got credited for every attempted submission of that score. Hundreds of points and gems and whatever it was the game ran on. So I did it again deliberately a few times. I got all the characters and skills unlocked in a couple of days instead of weeks or months of play.

In this case, it affected nobody except myself (and the company throwing out cheap mobile games intended to suck you into paying for extra credits). But it was definitely an exploit. The fact that I found it by accident doesn't change that.

Of course it was an exploit. Not because of turning off the game or anything, but because it used an in-game flaw to achieve something that the developers did not intend. You submitted the same score multiple times through the flaw of the IN-GAME code, the flaw of it saving the scores that are not submitted properly...but also stacking them. The exploit begun before you even turned the game off.

That and this are two different things. Complain all you want, but "semantics" are extremely important in any kind of clash of interests. Semantics are what can make or break a court case. You cannot dismiss them just cause you think that "If they do something that I don't want them to do, it must be an exploit". I never said that what they are doing is "good". But I did say that technically speaking it is not an exploit, therefore they cannot be banned for what they did up till now. It will become an exploit if the developers will find a way to deal with the problem (like counting the run-down of the cutscene even when someone is disconnected) and players will somehow manage to dodge that, because at that point they should not have normally access to the system they are using now.

[Kuroka]

Just because I have to run it once doesn't negate the fact it's bad design. Especially when "once" is a lie if people have alts and have to run it once per character.

Yes as 90% the players have 30+ alts, i know... come one then you do it once, just ONCE. still. If you actually bother to do ALL of ARR, HW and soon SB those few hours wont make such a difference... but i see its pointless to argue.