So people are defending the msq dc exploit

[Ahrijlaken]

Being forced to skip the cutscenes on my first run through completely ruined my experience.
Watching them at the inn later was a huge mess, with the disjointed timeline jumping all over the place.

Option 1: "Ruin" only 1 time your experience ( for a shitty story cutscene that you will just don't care in the next minute of your life ) and that you propably watch in your room right after the fight. That not a realy big deal.

Option 2 : Ruin all of your daily roulette exeprience, day after day being forced to watch the same cutscene other and other until you commit suicide.

People that choose option 2 are crazy person. Being hurt 1 time or being hurt 1 million time and harder ... that basicly the option.

[Iscah]

Option 1: "Ruin" only 1 time your experience ( for a [lousy] story cutscene that you will just don't care in the next minute of your life ) and that you propably watch in your room right after the fight. That not a realy big deal.

Option 2 : Ruin all of your daily roulette exeprience, day after day being forced to watch the same cutscene other and other until you commit suicide.

People that choose option 2 are crazy person. Being hurt 1 time or being hurt 1 million time and harder ... that basicly the option.

Those are not "the options". Just because you think the story is worthless and forgettable doesn't mean you can judge that for somebody else. It's not a big deal for you, but it is for others. And the writers clearly intend for it to be a big deal.

You know what is "an option"? Running the optional roulette to receive the reward that is intended to pay you for the time (rather than effort) spent completing it.

If it hurts you to do it, don't do it, and leave it for those who are willing to suffer through it - or have developed a coping strategy. Or, heavens forbid, are actually there to enjoy the story and won't forget the experience five minutes later.

If you are invested in the story it is a genuinely exciting climax, and experiencing it in a coherent, linear sequence will greatly add to that enjoyment. It simply cannot be fully replicated at the inn afterwards.

[Kuroka]

Option 1: "Ruin" only 1 time your experience ( for a shitty story cutscene that you will just don't care in the next minute of your life ) and that you propably watch in your room right after the fight. That not a realy big deal.

Option 2 : Ruin all of your daily roulette exeprience, day after day being forced to watch the same cutscene other and other until you commit suicide.

People that choose option 2 are crazy person. Being hurt 1 time or being hurt 1 million time and harder ... that basicly the option.

This is dumb, there is no B, do it to the conditions given or dont. ITs like id demand 3x the tome from Ex roulett just cause im lazy >_>

If you dont like it

Dont
do
it.


Stop telling its ok and a must to skip ANYTHING as a newbie.

[Mixt]

So you are okay with watching scenes out of order, skipping over chunks entirely, having to see the ending before the rest of the media in question, and so on.

Imagine then any movie you try to watch get's fast forwarded to the end so you have to watch that first, then go back to random sections and watch them out of order, because that's totes okay right? I mean, turnabout is fair play.

Same deal with books, flip to the last page and make you read that first, then jump back and read chapters out of order.

Or any other form of media you might care for.

Sounds like fun right? Not immersion breaking at all.
Totally nothing wrong with it, nope sir.

It should also be noted that first time experiences count for a lot.
Intentionally ruining that for people is a major jerk move.
First impressions tend to linger.

[Ahrijlaken]

Those are not "the options". Just because you think the story is worthless and forgettable doesn't mean you can judge that for somebody else. It's not a big deal for you, but it is for others.

Basicly you are saying that im selfish to ask people to accept to ruin their story experience for my suitability ... by being selfish and force everybody else to suffer from being obliged to watch the same shit when they farm their roulette.

We are talking about skipping just ONE Cutscene in the 300 hours of FF14 full story, this is the only mission like this. You suffer at lot less than people that are forced to watch and waste 30 minutes every day. So if i have to choose between my selfishness and yours, i choose mine. That the only thing that make sense.

Before this no sense change, it's was perfect and nobody ask SE to make this change. Nobody was complaining about it in fact.

If you dont like it Dont do it.

That funny, i don't like the cutscene but i still have to " do it " ...

[LalaRu]

...force everybody else to suffer from being obliged to watch the same shit when they farm their roulette...

That roulette is completely optional and you can skip it, cannot see how you think people are "obliged": rewards and time of completion are well known, so if you queue it, you weighted pro and cons and decided to queue.

When you skip cutscenes by the dc/relog trick, you are taking advantage of a game system bug (cuscene not played at relog) and exploiting it during your gameplay.

[Ahrijlaken]

When you skip cutscenes by the dc/relog trick, you are taking advantage of a game system bug (cuscene not played at relog) and exploiting it during your gameplay.

I personaly don't skip, i don't use this "bug" ( technically it's not a bug that how game work, if you crash it can't resume you in the middle of a cutscene it's impossible ) and i never saw anyone using it yet ... cause it's a pain in the ass to use, i prefer to just play guitar while the cutscene is played.

At least this devil mission make me improve my guitar skill.

[Kurando]

Before this no sense change, it's was perfect and nobody ask SE to make this change. Nobody was complaining about it in fact..

That's completely incorrect. People WERE complaining about this problem and that's why SE had to do something about it, there are plenty of threads on the forums (and probably outside stuff like Reddit) which highlighted player's concerns about it. SE didn't just think one day they were going to force cutscenes, the outcry actually encouraged them to do something and this is what we got. It wasn't the best solution but it made a difference to the newer players and in the end, the roulette is completely optional if you already did them once anyway. If you are farming them, then that's your problem, only the daily bonus is even with running it, anything more than daily is wasting your time in that case.

That funny, i don't like the cutscene but i still have to " do it " ...

Again another optional thing, you don't have to watch any cutscenes if you don't want to. Sure there is the small number that are unskippable (but are short), but the majority can be skipped and watched at a later time. If you play for the story then clearly you have no issue setting time aside to watch the scenes, if the story doesn't interest you, skip them, easy.

[Iscah]

That funny, i don't like the cutscene but i still have to " do it " ...

You don't have to do it. There is nothing requiring you to run it each day, and ignoring it does not block your progress. It is an optional roulette which the game allows you to run once per day if you are willing to spend the time required to earn the payment.

The unskippable cutscenes are not a deliberate barrier to your rightful reward for reaching the finish line, they are the reason those particular rewards have been set in the first place - as compensation for your time.

[Kuroka]

Basicly you are saying that im selfish to ask people to accept to ruin their story experience for my suitability ... by being selfish and force everybody else to suffer from being obliged to watch the same shit when they farm their roulette.

The Selfish ppl are ppl like YOU who forced others to skip it or dont take part at all, dont try to turn it on us. If ppl would have been nice and waited you could skip it with a premade or if no newbie is there, or its just a twink or whatever... but ppl HAVE BEEN selfish all the time thats why it got changed that way. You dont have to run that roulet, if you see it differently, ok...

Going by that logic ill kick everyone in ex roulet who isnt 395+ cause hes wasting my time, force solo heal on Seiryu or the healer is wasting my time, or even just leave any Pf that takes longer then 2 min to fill lol