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    TaranTatsuuchi's Avatar
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zephera View Post
    What does your first part have to do with it? Your logic of being completely unquestioning of questionable design choices is ridiculous and I'm pointing that out. If the devs approached the game with your mindset that they are never to be criticised, then nothing would ever change in this game, for better or worse.
    The thing not up for debate is the fact that doing the cutscene skip is exploitation and against the devs wishes.

    I never claimed their design decisions weren't debatable.
    In fact, my statement saying making them solo would have been the better option is debating against their design decision.


    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    When are they supposed to learn how PF works then? At 70? There's no prompt then talking about it nor a GM or player will automatically walk up to the person and explain how it works.

    Following the logic conclusion to that argument, how do people at 70 know how PF works then?

    So, why is lvl 50 a bad time to learn about PF? Being new =/= being lazy and ignorant, specially when people carry that excuse all the way to 70 so they don't have to bother learning anything.

    Coddling new players so they don't have to bother learning how the game works is the root of half, if not most of the game's problems.
    I never claimed that those things shouldn't be explained.
    But, since they're not, it cannot be expected that new players know about them when discussing things like this.
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    Zephera's Avatar
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    Zephera Mortera
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    Zalera
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    The thing not up for debate is the fact that doing the cutscene skip is exploitation and against the devs wishes.
    Well then, perhaps they should have put in a countermeasure to stop that if it's such a problem, or maybe it's part of their "wishes" to be able to skip by dc'ing.
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    Kaynneth Menad
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    I never claimed that those things shouldn't be explained.
    But, since they're not, it cannot be expected that new players know about them when discussing things like this.
    But they're not explained at max level either. So how do players find out about it?
    What makes it valid that a max level player should go and learn about it and not one at any level below maximum?

    Not to mention Party Finder is accessible and mentioned by the Active Help upon clearing Sastasha. So claiming new players don't know about it or that devs don't intend it to be used in situations like this is wrong.
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