Change to the ban system.

[Haruka_R]

After reading Dragorath's post, I think I've lost a bit of respect for Square Enix if they truly run things the way they do. And to everyone looking down on the OP with your condescending, holier-than-thou attitudes, you are some awful people and should be ashamed of yourselves. You even see a huge, meaningful post, and label it as fake and/or didn't even bother to read it. You really think a post that was put a lot of effort and emotion into such as Dragorath's is fake?

I made a forum account to present some ideas I had for this game, but after everything I've seen and read in this thread, I don't think I wanna be a part this environment. Dragorath, thank you for sharing your experiences with us and shedding some light on their BS moderation practices. Hope_For_Change, I'm truly sorry for what you're going through. I myself am on a 216 hour ban, my first ban, the very severe one, and am dreading the permaban hammer. But after reading Dragorath's post, I'm suddenly not all to worried about it anymore. And even if I don't get banned, I'll have to permanently hide the chat window. People say some provoking stuff, and some people find even breathing to be offensive.

So Hope_For_Change, keep fighting the good fight and I hope everything turns out well for you.

[ExKage]

After reading Dragorath's post, I think I've lost a bit of respect for Square Enix if they truly run things the way they do. And to everyone looking down on the OP with your condescending, holier-than-thou attitudes, you are some awful people and should be ashamed of yourselves. You even see a huge, meaningful post, and label it as fake and/or didn't even bother to read it. You really think a post that was put a lot of effort and emotion into such as Dragorath's is fake?

I made a forum account to present some ideas I had for this game, but after everything I've seen and read in this thread, I don't think I wanna be a part this environment. Dragorath, thank you for sharing your experiences with us and shedding some light on their BS moderation practices. Hope_For_Change, I'm truly sorry for what you're going through. I myself am on a 216 hour ban, my first ban, the very severe one, and am dreading the permaban hammer. But after reading Dragorath's post, I'm suddenly not all to worried about it anymore. And even if I don't get banned, I'll have to permanently hide the chat window. People say some provoking stuff, and some people find even breathing to be offensive.

So Hope_For_Change, keep fighting the good fight and I hope everything turns out well for you.

You got a 216 hour suspension / ban as your very first one? You must have done something to deserve that harsh of a penalty.

If they're harassing you, report them. If they're doing something wrong, report them. Otherwise, ignore their provocation.

[Vahlnir]

You got a 216 hour suspension / ban as your very first one? You must have done something to deserve that harsh of a penalty.

If they're harassing you, report them. If they're doing something wrong, report them. Otherwise, ignore their provocation.

Pretty much. No one is perfect. I have been provoked before and lost my patience but never said anything that warranted a ban. Sometimes it isn't what you say, it's how you say it. Thankfully that doesn't happen very often as I have grown pretty thick skin. If people are being jerks, ignore them. Plain and simple. SE isn't perfect either...they make mistakes. But overall their system works as intended. 9 times out of 10 if someone receives a suspension or ban they probably deserve it.

[InkstainedGwyn]

Truly baffled how so many people are so trusting of a "but let me tell you about something unbelievable that happened to me and is truly shocking and clearly supports all of my biases!" story. Though, seeing some of the nonsense that gets passed around on social media, maybe I shouldn't be. I guess you really can fool anybody on the internet if you present your story with enough confidence and authority.

[Jollyy5]

I'm seeing some people defending the OP's viewpoint, but the funny thing is that all of them have received bans themselves.

Fancy that.

[Keddera_StormMoon]

If you are so easily provoked into getting reported, perhaps the issue is with you.

But yah, let's totally not take responsibility for our own actions. Such is the way of things these days.

[Rymm]

I feel that this is quite unfair to say. Not to OP specifically, but to anyone who uses escapism.

I'll not deny that my response was fairly callous. But I've seen the OP's "problem" likened to addiction several times over the course of this thread. If that's truly the case and their problem really is that severe, then SE 'forgiving' one of their strikes or granting them some sort of reprieve would be nothing short of enabling them. At some point you have to draw a hard line and stop buying booze for the alcoholic (or, maybe a more accurate analogy in this case, stop giving them a ride to the liquor store.)

Escapism can be a wonderful or even sometimes a necessary thing, but either one of two things is happening in this particular case-

Either this person has an extreme problem and is not physically or mentally able to control their impulses. In which case, something this severe would have a large and detrimental impact in their real life which should definitely take priority over an MMO. In such a case escapism should not be used as a crutch if it is allowing them to hide from and avoid fixing their real life problems. Taking the game away may genuinely be the kindest and most helpful thing you could do for them if it spurs them to confront their issue and improve their overall quality of life.

Or this person is exaggerating their condition and can function normally in real life. In which case they are simply choosing not to exert the same level of control over themselves while playing the game and they absolutely deserve their inevitable ban.

[Mixt]

If anything I think they should also penalize the instigator. If a toxic player reports someone that retaliated to a personal attack the GM should also look back at the logs to establish what triggered the offense in the first place. If the person that filed the original report started the problem they also deserve to get punished

This, so very much.

This schoolyard teacher type behavior where they walk in on bullying and punish the students who are defending themselves while letting the comically aggressive and violent bully who instigated the whole mess walk away untouched is just sad.

Having moderators in an online game display the same behaviour is downright disturbing.

People seem to love pulling this kind of stuff, seeing as it keeps happening.

Selective Enforcement is nasty.

[HyoMinPark]

After reading Dragorath's post, I think I've lost a bit of respect for Square Enix if they truly run things the way they do. And to everyone looking down on the OP with your condescending, holier-than-thou attitudes, you are some awful people and should be ashamed of yourselves. You even see a huge, meaningful post, and label it as fake and/or didn't even bother to read it. You really think a post that was put a lot of effort and emotion into such as Dragorath's is fake?

The person you’re agreeing with was condescending and very much holier-than-thou. Funny how you choose to defend the very behavior you are condemning others for. I’m not obligated to take something at face value that sounds far-fetched; all we have is that person’s word, which, this is the Internet. You can’t believe everything you read here.
Plus, there are other reasons why I am not inclined to agree with him. I’m not going to bring them up here, though, because that will just further derail the thread.

I made a forum account to present some ideas I had for this game, but after everything I've seen and read in this thread, I don't think I wanna be a part this environment. Dragorath, thank you for sharing your experiences with us and shedding some light on their BS moderation practices. Hope_For_Change, I'm truly sorry for what you're going through. I myself am on a 216 hour ban, my first ban, the very severe one, and am dreading the permaban hammer. But after reading Dragorath's post, I'm suddenly not all to worried about it anymore. And even if I don't get banned, I'll have to permanently hide the chat window. People say some provoking stuff, and some people find even breathing to be offensive.

To get a 216-hour ban on your first offense, you have to have done something fairly serious. There are known botters and RMT middle-men on my server that haven’t received any such action, despite blatantly breaking the ToS and getting reported by a myriad of people, including myself.

You’re free to no longer post here, but people on here generally don’t respond well to players that ask for special exclusions/exemptions/exceptions “because Reasons”. Especially when they respond with “woe is me” replies.

Take responsibility for your actions.
If you want a change so bad, start with yourself.
Chances are, if you’re getting repeated warnings and bans, the problem doesn’t lie with the disciplinary system.

[Awha]

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Not sure if you would define this as a serious infraction but I am not sure if you remember the necro spree on the forums a few months back. I did get 9 days for saying a mod would not punish anyone severely while the mod called my bluff haha and I got 9 days. This was the forums though not sure if they are harsher on the forums.