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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    This is why we younger people get called snowflakes. People are quick to give up their agency when it suits them instead of accepting the consequences of their choices. The fault always lies on someone else, or when that fails, on an inexplicable quirk of the mind.


    The time to reward someone for good behavior is when they are growing up and still learning and testing social boundaries. Coddling adults like this is harmful, because it delays the lesson that real life doesn't always give you a second chance.
    Ah, then I guess I'm just doomed. I'll just give up on everything then. Thank you all for giving me the eyes to see that not a single person cares. Have a wonderful life. Lesson learn for me. Never bother to try and speak out. Always be pushed down and stepped on and laughed at. Got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hope_For_Change View Post
    Ah, then I guess I'm just doomed. I'll just give up on everything then. Thank you all for giving me the eyes to see that not a single person cares. Have a wonderful life. Lesson learn for me. Never bother to try and speak out. Always be pushed down and stepped on and laughed at. Got it.
    Most people are trying to tell you that it's something that YOU can change, or at least get some control over. It won't be easy, and it might require some professional help, but there is no shame in admitting you have a problem and wanting to do all you can to make it right. In fact, I have a lot of respect for people who do. You are at least stable enough to know what you're doing. That tells me that you can be helped if you choose. If you don't want to choose to improve your own life? Enjoy your ban(s).
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 12-21-2018 at 12:40 AM.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Most people are trying to tell you that it's something that YOU can change, or at least get some control over. It won't be easy, and it might require some professional help, but there is no shame in admitting you have a problem and wanting to do all you can to make it right. In fact, I have a lot of respect for people who do. You are at least stable enough to know what you're doing. That tells me that you can be helped if you choose. If you don't want to choose to improve your own life? Enjoy your ban(s).
    I'm trying to change and it's not easy at all. But what I would like is to have a way to not lose my account for ever if I end up breaking a rule by mistake. Or I miss type and when I meant to say something in another chat or to another person, it is sent to someone else or in another chat log where lots of people can see it. You can't tell me you've never once sent a miss tell or chat in the wrong LS/FC chat before. What if something is slip out into the wrong chat and taken out of context and then I'm reported? These are the things that keep me up at night, scared that I might make a simple mistake. The chat that would be mt isn't something that is meant to be toxic or hateful. What I do with my friends is meant for their eyes only. All I'm asking for is the account deletion to be changed to a 1 month ban. People don't understand how punishing that still is. For me that would mean weeks of uncap tombs, dailys and most of all, raids. They can still delete your account if you're botting, hacking, or if what you're saying in chat is truly toxic and the chat logs show no one provoked them into saying what was said. Sadly I'm at the point of just giving up because everyone hates this idea and only wishes me banned, everyone things that you should only give 4 mess ups before you learn your lesson but i'm a slow learner and the last two bans where not even something I knew was a ban able offence, like telling someone to f-off, to me that's like a common saying in the real world and never seen it as a threatening saying. And before that I was ban for using the squadrons LB on a the boss in O6S when the talk about it was all over the place. All I wanted to do was try it and thought nothing bad would even happen, that it would just get patched out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hope_For_Change View Post
    like telling someone to f-off, to me that's like a common saying in the real world and never seen it as a threatening saying.
    Where do you live that this is a common saying and it's used non-threateningly? From the examples you gave, that seems exactly how you intended it. You know, because someone made you mad.

    And before that I was ban for using the squadrons LB on a the boss in O6S when the talk about it was all over the place. All I wanted to do was try it and thought nothing bad would even happen, that it would just get patched out.
    I've been skimming over the thread for the last couple days and I don't remember this ban being mentioned. Maybe I missed it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevonEllwood View Post
    Where do you live that this is a common saying and it's used non-threateningly? From the examples you gave, that seems exactly how you intended it. You know, because someone made you mad.



    I've been skimming over the thread for the last couple days and I don't remember this ban being mentioned. Maybe I missed it?
    It was a ban on this account. Also I used "F-off" as a "screw you" But with more disgust to show me distaste towards the target. As you know the target was a toxic player who was bad talking someone who was on a 99% tank that he is used to playing with. People like that grinds my gears and I have to see it every day that I pug raids because I can't commit to a static time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hope_For_Change View Post
    I'm trying to change and it's not easy at all. But what I would like is to have a way to not lose my account for ever if I end up breaking a rule by mistake.
    It may be best to step away from the game then until you can get a handle on things. If you're trying? Great! However, that does not give you a free pass. Once you've shown you have improved there's nothing wrong with making an appeal to SE customer service. But there needs to be evidence of this. Actions speak louder than words. You got yourself into this mess, you will have to dig yourself back out.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 12-21-2018 at 01:27 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It may be best to step away from the game then until you can get a handle on things. If you're trying? Great! However, that does not give you a free pass. Once you've shown you have improved there's nothing wrong with making an appeal to SE customer service. But there needs to be evidence of this. Actions speak louder than words. You got yourself into this mess, you will have to dig yourself back out.
    How do you write an appeal? And what do you mean by that? Can I have my past bans justified by making an appeal? I've not once been told I can summit an appeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hope_For_Change View Post
    How do you write an appeal? And what do you mean by that? Can I have my past bans justified by making an appeal? I've not once been told I can summit an appeal.
    It has been brought up at least twice in this thread apart from me. How you do it I have no clue, but I know it can be done. Never had to, so...

    From what I can understand you contact CS or a GM. Not a written one though. As things currently stand however it is best to not even bother. Months down the road, probably. But not now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It has been brought up at least twice in this thread apart from me. How you do it I have no clue, but I know it can be done. Never had to, so...

    From what I can understand you contact CS or a GM. Not a written one though. As things currently stand however it is best to not even bother. Months down the road, probably. But not now.
    Ah I see. I'll take that into account and try and do it months later then. See if anything comes out of it. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hope_For_Change View Post
    Ah, then I guess I'm just doomed. I'll just give up on everything then. Thank you all for giving me the eyes to see that not a single person cares. Have a wonderful life. Lesson learn for me. Never bother to try and speak out. Always be pushed down and stepped on and laughed at. Got it.
    Excuse you.

    People care. What they don’t care for, however, are those who try to use their disabilities—be them physical or mental—as a reason to defend or excuse their actions.

    You did enough to put your main account on its last leg, strike-wise; and you were more than capable of controlling yourself from lashing out on more than one occasion. At the very least, you were capable of learning from your previous mistakes, and opting to not repeat them. But you neither refrained nor learned, and you are left now to deal with the consequences. You are not entitled to demand that the rules change simply because you don’t want to control/learn to control your impulses.
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