Quote Originally Posted by Eric_Riot View Post
First off lets not assume that we all know that every person can control their actions. Just because you make this this statement does not make it a fact, just because you say it.

https://www.cdc.gov/features/tourett...ngs/index.html

"#3 People with Tourette cannot control their tics (movement or sound) even though they may want to. "
And yet people with tourettes can normally improve their symptoms with some combination of therapy and medication.

Secondly stop assuming that most addicts don't relapse.

https://drugabuse.com/library/drug-relapse/

"Recent drug relapse statistics show that more than 85% of individuals relapse and return to drug use within the year following treatment. "

So post some fact's not opinion's when you use phrases like "lost of addicts control themselves" sure if "Lots" is 15%.
I'm not sure how many recovering addicts you have known, but I've known quite a few personally. The ones I know who are still clean 6-7 years later didn't actually get clean the first time they tried, so they would have been part of that 85% at some point; however, they still wanted a better life for themselves and ended up putting in the work for themselves to get clean/ sober. Just because someone relapsed once doesn't mean they will again and it also doesn't mean that rules and laws should be changed just because it's hard for an addict to control their impulses and get/ stay clean.

Personally I think it's a reasonable request that after x amount of time (I'd prefer a year of good behavior, but it would be up to SE to think about what they might consider fair) one of your strikes would be removed from counting against you. So, warning, 24 - 72 hour ban (depending on what you did and how bad it was), 7 day ban, permmaban. You do something dumb, get a warning. Do something else dumb, get the short ban. You learn from your mistakes, after a year, you're back to getting a short ban if you mess up again. It would be a nice way to reward someone who is trying to improve their behavior.