[Discussion] A lore forum Discord chat channel!

[redheadturk]

And this [the calling Theodric an idiot in this thread] is why I lurk more than post here. Can we just agree that ad hom attacks are a crappy thing to do, no matter how you might feel about the person in question and their views on certain parts of the lore, and take the server for what it is? An attempt to give lore hounds a chance to speak to each other in real time about said lore. Btw, I joined, and it's been a very pleasant experience thus far.

[Alleluia]

Sad how this turned from " A Discord for the whole Lore Forum and those who are interested in" and from a post that wanted debate to a "well I will do it anyway, I am going to be sole Moderator and you can join or not, I dont care". If it was no big deal why even start a discussion about the way it should be structured, how it should be lead and wanted us to post our opinions?

Maybe he, I dunno, thought people could potentially have issues with how moderation on a chatroom worked and wanted to lay out a way it could be impartial from the get go to allay any anxieties. I mean, I personally wouldn't have bothered b/c who would care so much about such a thing right? That'd be silly.

And so far in my experience, for what that might be worth apparently, it is for everyone. Not that that's something people can't just see for themselves.

And this [the calling Theodric an idiot in this thread] is why I lurk more than post here. Can we just agree that ad hom attacks are a crappy thing to do, no matter how you might feel about the person in question and their views on certain parts of the lore, and take the server for what it is? An attempt to give lore hounds a chance to speak to each other in real time about said lore. Btw, I joined, and it's been a very pleasant experience thus far.

This.

[Iscah]

You can't please everybody - and again, most of the concerns regarding bias are unfounded. I've linked profiles on other sites where I've posted about a variety of sites without any issues. I'm more than capable of being objective. If you don't believe that to be the case, fair enough - but let's not pretend much of the critique isn't coming from a 'I DON'T LIKE YOU' perspective.

To be precise, I don't like the way you speak to people on this forum, which is how you choose to present yourself here. And no, I don't care how you act elsewhere, because I don't see it as something compartmentalised.

And I still fail to see why I should be expected to judge you on how you behave on other forums rather than your long post history on this one.

No need to reply to this.


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EDIT December 2nd - really a separate post but I don't want to wake up the topic again after it died down - if this was presented from the start as "I made a Discord, come if you want", I probably wouldn't have objected like this. It's that it was presented as being intended as a democratically-organised Discord "for the entire community" and yet - as I tried very hard to say neutrally in my first post, at least, and increasingly failiingly after that - because Theodric was writing as if he expected to automatically be a moderator, I wanted to raise the issue that based on past discussions in this forum and regardless of who is objectively 'right' or 'wrong', it would be likely to put a number of regular posters off from participating.

If the initial intent of this topic was to consult the forum community about how to best set up the Discord "for everyone", then I thought perhaps Theodric might even want to hear it, if he hadn't thought of it being a negative factor, and if he was trying to make it welcoming to as many people as possible.

As it is, while I don't want to be boasting about getting 'likes', and can't be sure how representative it really is... with 5 on the original announcement versus 12 on my objection, regardless of who is "in the right", that's not a promising sign if this was supposed to appeal to the majority of the forum.

Because it was supposed to be about getting people's opinions, I felt like it was important to voice a concern that I thought a number of people might have with the proposal, but might not want to be the one to say it. (Neither did I for that matter, but I felt someone had to.) Perhaps I could have said it in a better way, but if this was truly intended to sort out potential issues, then I think it was something that had to be raised.

[Lauront]

To be precise, I don't like the way you speak to people on this forum, which is how you choose to present yourself here.

Sounds like an issue of style over substance, to me. IMO, this has become very petty.

And no, I don't care how you act elsewhere, because I don't see it as something compartmentalised.

And I still fail to see why I should be expected to judge you on how you behave on other forums rather than your long post history on this one.

No need to reply to this.


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EDIT December 2nd - really a separate post but I don't want to wake up the topic again after it died down - if this was presented from the start as "I made a Discord, come if you want", I probably wouldn't have objected like this. It's that it was presented as being intended as a democratically-organised Discord "for the entire community" and yet - as I tried very hard to say neutrally in my first post, at least, and increasingly failiingly after that - because Theodric was writing as if he expected to automatically be a moderator, I wanted to raise the issue that based on past discussions in this forum and regardless of who is objectively 'right' or 'wrong', it would be likely to put a number of regular posters off from participating.

If the initial intent of this topic was to consult the forum community about how to best set up the Discord "for everyone", then I thought perhaps Theodric might even want to hear it, if he hadn't thought of it being a negative factor, and if he was trying to make it welcoming to as many people as possible.

As it is, while I don't want to be boasting about getting 'likes', and can't be sure how representative it really is... with 5 on the original announcement versus 12 on my objection, regardless of who is "in the right", that's not a promising sign if this was supposed to appeal to the majority of the forum.

Because it was supposed to be about getting people's opinions, I felt like it was important to voice a concern that I thought a number of people might have with the proposal, but might not want to be the one to say it. (Neither did I for that matter, but I felt someone had to.) Perhaps I could have said it in a better way, but if this was truly intended to sort out potential issues, then I think it was something that had to be raised.

The upvotes are probably not representative at all and are a particularly easy metric to game, if one has the wherewithal to do so, anyway.

In any event, you've voiced your concerns, the Discord is up and running and we can all move on now.