[Discussion] A lore forum Discord chat channel!

[Theodric]

It isn't a clique, nor is it intended to be one.

If some posters want to see me as an 'idiot', then so be it. All I'll say on that note is that I've attempted to smooth out any issues more than once with certain posters by offering to talk things out with those who have clashed with me in the past. I can't really do much more than that.

If they want to assume the worst about me, then again...so be it. I'll just point out that for all the concern they show for my posting style, I've not once seen those individuals interject and show concern for commentary that is genuinely hurtful - such as calling me an 'idiot' or accusations of me of supporting genocide. I think that speaks for itself.

I don't care about popularity contests. I don't want people to hang off of my every word or agree with everything that I post. In my opinion, that sort of atmosphere doesn't make for a great debate. This is really just a channel intended to discuss the game's lore on a platform that is easy to access on the go. If someone is interested in joining, they're very welcome to. If they're not interested, that's fine too - they're not being forced to.

It's really just that simple. It should not and does not need to be some huge controversy, in other words. By the sounds of it, some of you simply want a 'yes man' who agrees with the majority. With respect, I don't find such an approach well suited to moderation. I don't actually predict any major issues to arise in the Discord itself. If they do, they're be dealt with accordingly - though the chat isn't going to be subject to heavy handed antics. Nobody will be banned for differences in opinion...and nobody is going to be banned for 'wrong think' because they happen to post differently to their brethren.

It's really just intended to be a place for people to discuss a mutual hobby/interest. I really can't stress that enough.

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Putting all that aside, things have been going pretty smoothly so far and a handful of people have already joined! In about a month, when 4.5 goes live, I shall be celebrating it by hosting a lottery for our members; with the grand prize being a Mog Station mount of their choice.

I just need to find a decent online lottery/random number generator in the meanwhile...suggestions for that are very welcome and appreciated.

[Iscah]

Its not an excuse for a clique. It literally just stemmed from idle questioning on my part in another thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4830734 Until the last 24 hours I've never interacted with Theodric on a one-to-one basis. There was no agenda other than to create a freaking chatroom that would let people who have a common interest in the lore of ff14 chat to each other in real time and hang out.

Then people, imo, got kinda childish early on in this thread and made it about the guy offering to host the chatroom instead of the chatroom itself.

I know it began in relation to your question in the other thread - but there isn't a disconnect between setting up a chatroom for a particular audience, and making sure it's run by someone (or a panel of someones) who is regarded well by the majority of people in that audience.

It seems unbalanced, for lack of a better word, for a person who has undeniably divisive opinions (and insists they are fair and reasonable) to step up and declare that they are an excellent choice for moderator - and then establish themself as sole moderator rather than waiting for any further discussion or to form the panel that they themself proposed was necessary to prevent bias.

If it was just me that had issues, and everyone else was fine with it... I'd stay quiet. In fact I probably wouldn't even be here. But when there are a number of regular posters at odds with him, and if this is truly supposed to appeal to everyone on the forum... this is not how you go about it.

If some posters want to see me as an 'idiot', then so be it. All I'll say on that note is that I've attempted to smooth out any issues more than once with certain posters by offering to talk things out with those who have clashed with me in the past. I can't really do much more than that.

If they want to assume the worst about me, then again...so be it. I'll just point out that for all the concern they show for my posting style, I've not once seen those individuals interject and show concern for commentary that is genuinely hurtful - such as calling me an 'idiot' or accusations of me of supporting genocide. I think that speaks for itself.

So because someone else called you an idiot since my last post, and I didn't speak up against it....?

Yes it was uncalled for. No they shouldn't have said that, and I wouldn't have.

And no I am not going to call out every thing that every person says in a public debate. Do I have to look through the entire forum and find every potentially hurtful thing anyone ever said to you, before I can be clear of having doubts cast on my character?

I'm objecting to what you've written in the past because now you are trying to place yourself above the debate. The other people are not.

I am trying very hard to make this only about what you say. About the things and the tone of what you write on the forum.



And yes, I've seen you "offer to talk things out" with people before - by shifting from the public forum to a private conversation. And I don't see why anyone would choose to take you up on that. What would it achieve? What on earth would you talk about that wouldn't involve saying the same things again?

That doesn't sound like a generous offer. That sounds like trying to give the impression of being generous while knowing the person won't want to take you up on it.

Or if you genuinely believe that's a fair thing to offer, think about it. You're offering to resolve someone's discomfort by putting them in an even more uncomfortable, potentially confrontational, one-on-one conversation in the Internet equivalent of a private room instead of out in public where other people can see what's going on.