getting kicked from end game pfs as soon as I join?

[Dzian]

In which world is something that is listed in every battlelog of your parties YOUR data? This is like saying that everything you write in all chats is YOUR data too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The world we all live in. GDPR

What constitutes personal data?
The GDPR applies to ‘personal data’, meaning any information relating to an identifiable person who can be directly or indirectly identified in particular by reference to an identifier. This definition provides for a wide range of personal identifiers to constitute personal data, including name, identification number, location data or online identifier, reflecting changes in technology and the way organisations collect information about people.

so yeah pretty much anything i say in the chat log is personal data. just the same as any post i make on facebook is personal data... anyhting that can be referenced to an identifiable individual is considered personal data.

so technically fflogs is in breach of GDPR as its using identifiable information without consent. and thus should be anonymised for anyone who has not Opted-In

[Ilan]

The world we all live in. GDPR



so yeah pretty much anything i say in the chat log is personal data. just the same as any post i make on facebook is personal data... anyhting that can be referenced to an identifiable individual is considered personal data

Yeah uhm how do logs identify you as a person? Logs only show what you did with your pixels in a game. Your real identity is no where listed there.

[Dzian]

Yeah uhm how do logs identify you as a person? Logs only show what you did with your pixels in a game. Your real identity is no where listed there.

What constitutes personal data?
The GDPR applies to ‘personal data’, meaning any information relating to an identifiable person who can be directly or indirectly identified in particular by reference to an identifier. This definition provides for a wide range of personal identifiers to constitute personal data, including name, identification number, location data or online identifier, reflecting changes in technology and the way organisations collect information about people.

bolded it for you. (your characters name is an identifier)

[Ilan]

bolded it for you

THIS DATA IS NOT RELATED TO YOUR PERSON! It is only related to your person if you make your RL identity public, before that these are just datas of pixels.

[Paladinleeds]

THIS DATA IS NOT RELATED TO YOUR PERSON! It is only related to your person if you make your RL identity public, before that these are just datas of pixels.

Might be worth taking it to court to see though. GDPR does state though that online identifiers count, and people can use your online identifier to track and source your RL identity. It actually happened to me quite recently.

[Ilan]

You said "all chats", not "chats everyone can see". I'm sorry, the analogy still kinda falls flat with me. The expectation of privacy is much less when you're voluntarily shouting something out in public.

Now we are starting to nitpick. But you are right, i should have made an EXACT list of the chats i mean...not that it could be obvious that i meant chats that everyone can read.

Might be worth taking it to court to see though. GDPR does state though that online identifiers count, and people can use your online identifier to track and source your RL identity. It actually happened to me quite recently.

These would be extreme cases which are highly unlikely. But if that would count as personal data, things like lodestone would be completly illegal and your character name had to be censored for everyone besides you to protect your private data.

[HyoMinPark]

bolded it for you. (your characters name is an identifier)

But your character’s name is not a direct identification to your person. I don’t think it falls under this.

If someone wanted to read through the battle logs. That are saved on their system that is fine. But unless I missed an update, isn't that info wiped from you when you log out?

I can access logs stored on my PC that contain text directly from the Battle Logs and chats.
Under My Games > FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn > FFXIV_CHR00xxxxxxxxxxxx (my main’s specific character folder) > logs

They’re a horrible mess to read through, but they’re there.

[Dzian]

But your character’s name is not a direct identification to your person. I don’t think it falls under this.

it doesn't have to be.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/person see 1.1

1.1 (in legal or formal contexts) an unspecified individual

It can be anything that seperates them as an individual.
it can be via there name. an id. location data OR an online identifier. if that information can be tracked to an Individual indentifer it is personal data.

Your Character for example can be identified as an individual person or player. while people may not know your real name or address or anything like that. your character is still an online indentifier and can be indentified as a person. not a group of people but an individual person. and that makes any data pertaining to your online identifier. personal data.

But if that would count as personal data, things like lodestone would be completly illegal and your character name had to be censored for everyone besides you to protect your private data.

The Lodestone is directly connected to the game and thus you consent to it having that data when you accept the terms and conditions for the game

you can however go into your lodestone and choose what data you wish to share. you can hide your achievements your friends, your minion collection and various other things.

[Ilan]

it doesn't have to be.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/person see 1.1


It can be anything that seperates them as an individual.
it can be via there name. an id. location data OR an online identifier. if that information can be tracked to an Individual indentifer it is personal data.

Your Character for example can be identified as an individual person or player. while people may not know your real name or address or anything like that. your character is still an online indentifier and can be indentified as a person. not a group of people but an individual person. and that makes any data pertaining to your online identifier. personal data.


The Lodestone is directly connected to the game and thus you consent to it having that data when you accept the terms and conditions for the game

you can however go into your lodestone and choose what data you wish to share. you can hide your achievements your friends, your minion collection and various other things.

But you can't hide everything including your name, which would also fall under private datas IF logs would. It also doesn't matter if you accept the terms of the game because these terms are outruled by the law.

[HyoMinPark]

it doesn't have to be.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/person see 1.1


It can be anything that seperates them as an individual.
it can be via there name. an id. location data OR an online identifier. if that information can be tracked to an Individual indentifer it is personal data.

Your Character for example can be identified as an individual person or player. while people may not know your real name or address or anything like that. your character is still an online indentifier and can be indentified as a person. not a group of people but an individual person. and that makes any data pertaining to your online identifier. personal data.

As per that definition you linked, LEGALLY and FORMALLY, no, it cannot. Your character is not a real person, offers absolutely no legal or formal identifier of your real person, and its name is 100% public knowledge. It is not protected under any sort of privacy act like an individual's real information would be.

You're reaching with this.

you can however go into your lodestone and choose what data you wish to share. you can hide your achievements your friends, your minion collection and various other things.

But you cannot hide your character name, the "identifier" you are arguing. So this point is irrelevant. And, as far as I'm aware, only friends lists and achievements can be private. Mounts/minions are always public - I've never seen anyone hide them and I do not recall ever seeing an option to do so.