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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince_Myshkin View Post
    ASUS p6x58d premium motherboard.
    Good choice with the MoBo, it was either this or the UD7 for me.
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    To Darkstarpoet1, links please...never read anything like that
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  3. #53
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    well ya CPU and GPU conflicts can completely bottleneck and drag any system down and really for this game you are lookin at spending 900$s to play on a more mid range system than my crappy yet gets the job done 320$ system. Ya mine runs the game great but like others are stating low performance systems are not capable of running the quest Cut scenes. My cut scenes lag horrbily lol. Sometimes they play all the way thru sometimes its like watching streaming video in 1996 lol.
    Your system is not really outdated per say but your probably better off spending around 900$s gettin a new PC than a better CPU/GPUmotherboard and video card.

    People really need to just shop around because many online retailers have outrageous sales and often some truly good deals. try Ibuypower.com Cyberpower.com Newegg.com Tigerdirect.com and look hard and compare. try to Avoid the rebate sales tho cus they dont like to pay u the money back lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by myoozek View Post
    I have:

    Computing Engine: AMD Phenom X2 3.2GHZ CPU
    RAM: 4GB DDR2
    Storage: 5400RPM HDD
    Video Engine: EVGA GTX460 768MB GPU
    Play Resolution: 1680

    Don't remember what I get on benchmark; I think it was just shy of 4000. I've opted to disable most graphical pleasantries like OO, AA and, etc. Fairly default settings (medium) with textures turned up a slight notch. I typically get about 30fps, as low as 22 in UlDah. Cut-scenes and story mode gameplay is real bad. So much so that I've opted to not do any until I upgrade.

    Does anyone know if my CPU or RAM will bottleneck future GPU upgrades?
    Does it make sense to secure a solid CPU (i7) and then upgrade GPU?

    I kind of know the answers to these questions, but I'm curious as to anyone else's rational behind their reasoning.

    (Narrow the scope of the following questions to FFXIV ONLY - if you can)
    Why is CPU important?
    Why is GPU important?
    Why is RAM important?
    Why is HDD important?

    I think answering these questions can direct people's buying methods more effeciently than "Get this graphics card" or "Get this CPU", etc.

    Thoughts?
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhati View Post
    To Darkstarpoet1, links please...never read anything like that
    It's buried somewhere on either Zam or Core (or both). Pretty sure it was an interview with the original development lead. I'd dig it up for you but it's 2:30 AM and I'm going to bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince_Myshkin View Post
    I definitely agree with this, at least in regards to FFXIV. The game would never look at good on a ps3 compared to a PC, if both used a 1080p monitor/tv. But for the cost, it makes much more sense for someone to use a PS3 if they are wanting to play this game. But console gaming will never have the power or custom aspect as a PC will have.
    Spoken by a true PC fan...I feel your pain, but its not the truth actually...PC users are and will be on constant "catch up" to rival the PS3 platform for years to come...we in the early phases of a PS3 Game pre-released to PC
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    EVGA Nvidia GTX 480
    8 GB DDR-3 1600mhz
    AMD Phenom II x4 965 3.4Ghz
    WD 1TB SATA drive
    ASUS M4A7ETD-Evo motherboard
    Case Apevia X-plorer black
    24' Hewlett Packard LCD Monitor
    Walmart keyboard and mouse... >.>

    Built this computer for APB and FFXIV and APB died on me so until it comes back its built for FFXIV only. Cost me about $1500 including the monitor.

    Oh and I run FFXIV on max everything and like 8x MSAA since I never found out wat BSAA was lol
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    (Narrow the scope of the following questions to FFXIV ONLY - if you can)
    Why is CPU important?
    Why is GPU important?
    Why is RAM important?
    Why is HDD important?
    CPU speed has the most direct influence on benchmark
    MB is second on how this matters
    RAM more is better if its fast and Unganged
    MMO use rapid access, faster HDD or better yet SDD is *vital* faster SSD is prolly most important above CPU speed

    btw: NEVER format a SSD, trust me...if you do, throw it away and get a new one because you cannot undo the damage...Windows 7 does't need to see a formatted SSD...optimally just plug and play...Windows 7 sees SSD as RAM...you don't format RAM do you?
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    Chassis: Cooler Master HAF-932
    OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit
    Processor: Intel i7-960 @ 3.2 Ghz
    Motherboard: Asus P6TD Deluxe
    Memory: OCZ Gold 1333 Mhz @ 9-9-9-20 1.65V 8GB
    GPU: 2x NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250
    HD: Western Digital Caviar Black 3GB/s 2TB
    Optical: Plextor B320SA 8X BD/R
    Monitor: Sylvania LC220SS1 60hz
    Mouse: Logitech Anywhere Mouse MX (Amazingly smooth and durable mouse)
    Keyboard: Logitech Illuminated Keyboard (Sucks hardcore... can't wait to get a good gaming keyboard)

    Anywho, that's what I got. Lookin' forward to uppin' the ram to 12 GB+, then new graphics cards, a new keyboard, then maybe a new processor down the road.

    This comp wasn't designed with gaming in mind though. This here is the powerhouse that is the heart of my home studio. Having a rig like this is great for runnin' multiple adobe products, recording software, and other ram/cpu intensive programs. Pretty good for gamin' though too. Gotta 4973 Low Res benchmark for XIV ^^

    I run XIV pretty much full on max 'cept Standard Drawing Quality and No ambient Occlusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhati View Post
    To Darkstarpoet1, links please...never read anything like that
    just search it. first, the ps3 uses 720p resolution maxed on most games. that is the gaming standard where as 1080p is the standard on pc games as of now. it only takes a few seconds to check google for max ps3 resolutions to see that although ps3 can run some 1080p games and movies it does so at a lower quality than its competition. i am not downing the ps3 as it is a great low budget system, but also remember it is quite a few years old now and its been surpassed by many systems including the pc.

    "Originally, thought to be a PS3 exclusive, Final Fantasy XIV will in fact be making an appearance on the PC. The developers delve into this a bit, mentioning Crystal Tools, a development platform that will also be used for Final Fantasy XIII and is designed to allow them to port more smoothly to multiple systems. In regards to the PC version, the game will utilize the most current version of Direct X that is out when beta testing begins. This goes for Operating System as well. Similarly, they do not specify Vista or Windows 7 as an operating system, saying again that it will depend on what is out at the time. For those of you looking to prep a new PC, Tanaka claims they are really looking to get on the cutting edge of technology with this installment. Like Final Fantasy XI, the game specs will be extremely high for the time, but in about 5 years, an average machine can run it on max settings with little to no issues. Tanaka also expressed interest in making a benchmark program available."

    this was what was said during an interview with tanaka during the original presentation, but here's the full interview.
    http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=18309

    we already know that ps3 cannot run directx 10 nor directx 11 since both were released years after ps3 was and they have no contract to run either of these platforms.

    i'm also sure the 3.2 single core with 256mb ram will not keep up with the powerful computers.

    i am not saying it will be bad looking on ps3 nor am i saying it will be unplayable, but i am just saying to get best looking graphics off the ps3 they will have to lower the settings of the game to be able to play properly. like i said good budget pc, but not comparable to the high end systems. it is like all other forms of electronics in that a few years after release it is no longer top of the line, but middle to back of the pack.
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    ok, now we have something, read the link you posted

    Originally, thought to be a PS3 exclusive, Final Fantasy XIV will in fact be making an appearance on the PC. The developers delve into this a bit, mentioning Crystal Tools, a development platform that will also be used for Final Fantasy XIII and is designed to allow them to port more smoothly to multiple systems. In regards to the PC version, the game will utilize the most current version of Direct X that is out when beta testing begins. This goes for Operating System as well. Similarly, they do not specify Vista or Windows 7 as an operating system, saying again that it will depend on what is out at the time. For those of you looking to prep a new PC, Tanaka claims they are really looking to get on the cutting edge of technology with this installment. Like Final Fantasy XI, the game specs will be extremely high for the time, but in about 5 years, an average machine can run it on max settings with little to no issues. Tanaka also expressed interest in making a benchmark program available.
    doesn't discount what I said, patches for PC users
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