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    People keep asking questions we won't have answers to til release. As for solo play, odds are the high end FATEs that require a good chunk of people to partake in can be done with a small group of BLU if their abilities are OP as they say they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikoten View Post
    Remember Misery's End? That could be Level 5 Death. Fixed.

    Remember PvP? Certain skills could be main unavailable for duties and raids. Fixed.

    EDIT: What if BLU had their own Limit Break? Level X Death (5? 10? 15? does the bloody number even matter?)

    Does BLU even need to learn Level 5 Death?
    I don't know why you think I believe it's impossible to adapt level 5 death for content, I'm just telling you what they explicitly said about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    I don't know why you think I believe it's impossible to adapt level 5 death for content, I'm just telling you what they explicitly said about it.
    I don't. I was asking you what FF game a Death spell one-shotted bosses, because the very idea of that is absurd. Yeah, there are strategic ways to kill bosses more quickly than drawing out the fight through conventional means (Soul Cage in FF9), but I have never heard of simply casting a DEATH SPELL to just up and one-shot any boss we want. No, I don't think that's balanced.
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    Last edited by Kikoten; 11-22-2018 at 06:53 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikoten View Post
    I don't. I was asking you what FF game a Death spell one-shotted bosses, because the very idea of that is absurd. Yeah, there are strategic ways to kill bosses more quickly than drawing out the fight through conventional means (Soul Cage in FF9), but I have never heard of simply casting a DEATH SPELL to just up and one-shot any boss we want. No, I don't think that's balanced.
    Final Fantasy V says hi, namely BLU, with the right spells, broke the ever loving crap out of the game itself. In fact, just look up a standard Final Fantasy 5 speed run and you'll see what I mean w/ Lvl 5 Death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreameR7g View Post
    Final Fantasy V says hi, namely BLU, with the right spells, broke the ever loving crap out of the game itself. In fact, just look up a standard Final Fantasy 5 speed run and you'll see what I mean w/ Lvl 5 Death.
    Very well. Looks like I have a long search ahead of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikoten View Post
    I don't. I was asking you what FF game a Death spell one-shotted bosses, because the very idea of that is absurd.
    SDaemon and I gave you many examples where you could one shot bosses with a single spell/skill in past FF...as early as FF I
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    SDaemon and I gave you many examples where you could one shot bosses with a single spell/skill in past FF...as early as FF I
    SDaemon and you weren't the ones twisting my words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    SDaemon and I gave you many examples where you could one shot bosses with a single spell/skill in past FF...as early as FF I
    None of those previous FF are MMORPG.

    The only valid one could be FFXI where blue mage was balanced for a MMORPG, if death was able to OS any boss without restriction then its a valid point, if not it not worth being so important in the balance.
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    Last edited by Nariel; 11-22-2018 at 07:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikoten View Post
    SDaemon and you weren't the ones twisting my words.
    Why are you accusing me of twisting your words? Your original post had nothing to do with level 5 death. You said it wouldn't remain limited, I merely gave you the reasons they gave as to why the job will remain limited, I don't care whether they make sense or not, it's what they said. You seem to be taking this way too personal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    None of those previous FF are MMORPG.
    Considering the question was :
    Quote Originally Posted by Kikoten View Post
    In what FF game does a death spell one-shot boss enemies?
    EDIT: Or any game, for that matter? And I mean a DEATH spell, ONE-SHOTTING a BOSS.
    I'd say it's not relevant.

    And since there was exactly one MMORPG FF before XIV, it's difficult to make a trend for all FF MMO, especially when Yoshi-P clearly stated than "breaking the game" was part of what makes BLU fun.

    My understanding is that BLU will break every level 50 content without having to overlevel it (since you can't, obviously )...and will also probably break all lvl60 and 70 content when it's level is raised. I still think that SH will bring content with BLU in mind, that won't be broken as easily.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 11-22-2018 at 10:38 PM.

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