People who are mad about the "limited job" didn't actually want Blue Mage.

[Elerus]

White Mage's main shtick is healing comrades, not learning unbalanced moves from monsters.

Now we went from a "No True Scotsman" argument to moving the goalpost. Look if you like what they're doing with Blue Mage then fine - it's your opinion, you pay your sub. But your original post made this grandiose statement about everyone who was arguing against the current implementation of Blue Mage. The truth is the "nay" crowd have a lot of reasons and not all of them are the same: some are long-time fans of Blue Mage who wanted this to be their main, some are afraid that "limited" job could actually become a long-term thing and one day it'll be the job THEY always wanted that gets turned into another "Lord of Verminion" side-show, and some are simply calling this out from a mechanical standpoint.

edit: oops, forgot to quote what I was responding to.

[Skyskip]

Totally agree.
Blue Mage is a hunter of monster skills.
It comes with a brand new type of content.
Just because it can't initially apply into every content does not mean it will never be able to.
And, Excuse me, but the only relevant content of FFXIV is not raid. I actually like more to level up jobs and play with the skills than to farm BiS to be able to keep doing the same thing you were doing to farm it.

I see a lot of "it's easy to balance, just make death V nor work on bosses", OMG, did you ever played Blue Mage? The most fun of it is to get that rare skill and actually make USE OF IT. The fun of Blue Mage if to hunt monsters skills, and not to keep farming the BiS and trashing is and farming the new one and trashing it, I really don't want to keep doing this, I want thins to be impactful, and this system is something that is actually doing changes to what is becoming stagnant and senseless to me.

Except you can't make use of it in any content outside of garbage low level stuff that every other job can already solo at max level.

[LeoLupinos]

Except you can't make use of it in any content outside of garbage low level stuff that every other job can already solo at max level.

You can make pre-made party. I don't know about your capacities, but this sounds to me pretty much doing a lot of content.

[Skyskip]

You can make pre-made party. I don't know about your capacities, but this sounds to me pretty much doing a lot of content.

They specifically called attention to the fact that some abilities are too powerful to be used on bosses (in what was a horrifically tone-deaf example) so it's very clear that it's not their intent to actually do anything relevant.

[SonKevin]

Now we went from a "No True Scotsman" argument to moving the goalpost. Look if you like what they're doing with Blue Mage then fine - it's your opinion, you pay your sub. But your original post made this grandiose statement about everyone who was arguing against the current implementation of Blue Mage. The truth is the "nay" crowd have a lot of reasons and not all of them are the same: some are long-time fans of Blue Mage who wanted this to be their main, some are afraid that "limited" job could actually become a long-term thing and one day it'll be the job THEY always wanted that gets turned into another "Lord of Verminion" side-show, and some are simply calling this out from a mechanical standpoint.

edit: oops, forgot to quote what I was responding to.

You tried to boil my entire argument to saying that because x can't do this minor thing then it's the same thing as Blue Mage can't be its actual job.

[xbahax92]

I get that many people wanted to make BLU as their new main, which is quite not possible. Especially for raid content, then again - savage content is not done by everyone.

In my opinion you throw so much hate already without being able to try the job and the 49 skills that will come with it.
And thats why they gonna implement the job earlier, so people can go and try it and THEN leave feedback. People came here to the forums and qq'ed about the stagnant of the same formula, same content, nothing new to do. And in my opinion, its the first time that the dev's really try something new. If its bad or maybe good, thats to decide and judge when the said content is out. Right now, its all just speculations nothing more and nothing less.

[diruulth]

delete this thread honestly

[SonKevin]

I get that many people wanted to make BLU as their new main, which is quite not possible. Especially for raid content, then again - savage content is not done by everyone.

In my opinion you throw so much hate already without being able to try the job and the 49 skills that will come with it.
And thats why they gonna implement the job earlier, so people can go and try it and THEN leave feedback. People came here to the forums and qq'ed about the stagnant of the same formula, same content, nothing new to do. And in my opinion, its the first time that the dev's really try something new. If its bad or maybe good, thats to decide and judge when the said content is out. Right now, its all just speculations nothing more and nothing less.

Sorry, but if I can't do end game content then it's just Lords of Verminion. /s

[RoroCookies]

I don't understand the logic here.
People really want BLU but not as a solo job. It's as simple as that.

[Aylis]

I've said this already in another thread somewhere, but I want to try again.

Yes, I am HELLA EXCITED for BLU. Admittedly, the "limited job" part was ever so slightly off-putting, but that aside, I still can't wait to join the Masked Carnivale, and roam the world over again as a Blue Mage in training. I refuse to believe that BLU is simply a mini-game class like some claim it to be. Are Disciples of the Land a mini-game? They roam the world to gather, based on RNG, even. To me, BLU is more akin to a Disciple of the Land, roaming the world and gathering abilities to use in the future. I think SE is going to find a way to make BLU usable end-game, very soon.

I kinda feel the same way. I'm....hopeful. I don't wanna get excited just yet due to past let downs and times SE dropped the ball in the past, but I am hopeful. It would be a lovely change to have something that exists beyond the games boundaries and its pre-set formulas of level up, get skill, do quest, get another skill. Even the RNG part of gaining skills really doesn't bother me all that much. It's just nice having something new and something different. Something new to do when friends are doing something else and something to do when nights come up and were not feeling very much like subjecting ourselves to the randomness of PUG's. My only real hope is the class is as game breaking as they say it is to where normal dungeon instances can be soloed at or slightly above level so it's at least a good solo challenge.