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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BubblyBoar View Post
    I absolutely can. We've been accepting watered down versions of classes since the start of 2.0 with SMN and even with RDM. And yet, people still love and play those classes often. BLU would have been the same if they bothered to try.
    BLU is a bit different, and always has been. Collecting abilities has been a major side activity in games in a way that no other job has had, which is exactly what XIV has emulated. And by the sounds of it, they did try to put BLU into the traditional job formula and it didn't work as a BLU (which is understandable, it has no identifiable theme other than collecting enemy abilities), so the main gameplay that they took is the side activity that makes up the identity of BLU
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    Taryn Holigard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    BLU is a bit different, and always has been. Collecting abilities has been a major side activity in games in a way that no other job has had, which is exactly what XIV has emulated. And by the sounds of it, they did try to put BLU into the traditional job formula and it didn't work as a BLU (which is understandable, it has no identifiable theme other than collecting enemy abilities), so the main gameplay that they took is the side activity that makes up the identity of BLU
    But you can still have that "side activity" and place the job in a party role (it's mostly a DPS anyway). All they need to do is balance the spells BLU learns inside duty content. And giving Death as an example of a spell is silly. Just don't give it to BLU. Way overpowered anyway for a solo job.

    Even the excuse of "you'll get kicked from party if you don't have X spell" is an easy fix. Cap the BLU's exp at each 5 level increment, and then require the BLU to learn spells as part of their job quests. By the time they reach level 15, they should have 3 "sets" of required spells. Plenty for the first dungeon. Then continue that trend all the way to 80. It's no more convoluted than what they have planned anyway. We're looking at 49 spells right now and level 50 cap. That's 1 spell a level. Very easy to break those down into 4-5 spells per job quest. The quests themselves can be a series of going out and learning spells.
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    Gerelsar Iriq
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Literally just make it so we can learn abilities through class quests; its the same every other class and job did before Stormblood, I see no reason why we can't use that same system. Make me fight a Cactuar at level 1, a goblin at level 5, so on, so forth.

    Please just don't cut me off from content. I want to be a Blue Mage main, not a Blue mage... sometimes when the mood strikes me and i have no friends on.
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    Sqooq Moys
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    Ninja Lv 70
    yes please, it’s an mmo not a single player game
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    Sage Tyrn'fae
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    You know, I kind of understand where they're coming from. A job like Blue Mage can be hard to balance, so if only there was a system present in the game that allowed you to have a core set of abilities and swap them out for situational ones based on the duty you go into...
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Meanwhile...you meet that lvl 50 gladiator in 24-man raid and those player not doing their job quests, people not setting their cross role action...

    But for some reason this case seems to be okay for them.
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    Checking in again to show my support.
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    Daryth Al'amin
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    It's dangerous to go alone, here taaaaake this Ala Mhigan Earrings~

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    "It must be a thursday, I could never get the hang of thursdays."

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    C'qhataia Ixa'ris
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    The BLU will be able to raid once it reaches 80, it just won't be able to use duty finder for it.

    JFC, this is such a non-issue.
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    Amson Beoulve
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by otarolgam View Post
    The BLU will be able to raid once it reaches 80, it just won't be able to use duty finder for it.

    JFC, this is such a non-issue.
    They didn't say one way or another that blu will ever be able to raid current content. The info made it sound like that wouldn't be possible but we don't know for sure quite yet. My side is angry because of the current restrictions and the awful reasons why. We are fine with it starting off at 50 and if they wanted data first before shaping up the job. We are against the idea of blu never being able to reach the level needed to do current content and if the restrictions are never lifted.

    Some people don't have the time to make premade parties and rely on matchmaking in duty finder.
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