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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esp View Post
    As much as I bitch about how I am not going into Eureka again, I still don't think it's fair to just ask them to stop outright.

    Sure a portion hate it, but there are people that are enjoying it. It's just not fair to rip the enjoyment from others just because some want it gone.

    Don't go in and do something else if you don't agree with it, but still, let the others have their fun.
    While I don't think they should just do away with Eureka as a whole, they really outdid themselves with the amount of new items that they put into that area.

    With the 4.45 patch, Eureka gets 1 of the new minions for sure, 2nd minion is assumed to be from there as well (the Wind-up Elvaan), the new mount , the new furnishings, one of the TT cards (assumed), the new hairstyle and the new emote. That's crazy. @.@ I can't imagine them giving any other specific content that many items at once.

    If they had released several new items in each category (minions, mounts, hairstyles, etc), it wouldn't seem so bad, but sadly that's not how SE works.

    Also i think this was probably better suited for one of the other threads, but I keep mixing them up. lol.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 11-08-2018 at 11:04 AM.

  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    While I don't think they should just do away with Eureka as a whole, they really outdid themselves with the amount of new items that they put into that area.

    With the 4.45 patch, Eureka gets 1 of the new minions for sure, 2nd minion is assumed to be from there as well (the Wind-up Elvaan), the new mount , the new furnishings, one of the TT cards (assumed), the new hairstyle and the new emote. That's crazy. @.@ I can't imagine them giving any other specific content that many items at once.

    If they had released several new items in each category (minions, mounts, hairstyles, etc), it wouldn't seem so bad, but sadly that's not how SE works.
    I do agree with how the amount of stuff placed in there this patch is a bit over the top, and it should have been spread out between other content, but it is nice rewards for those that stuck through their grind and continue on their next one, even if the relic is their main reward. Plus, it's not like the forums didn't see this coming if you go through older posts pre-patch.

    There will always be rewards locked behind other area's of content other just don't want to do or hate. However, SOME of this stuff can be bought on the MB, even if at crazy prices.

    But the rewards are not the focus of the posters original post. He simply wants Eureka gone cause he hates it, and that, in my view, isn't right nor fair regardless on what rewards are obtained.
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    Last edited by Esp; 11-08-2018 at 11:10 AM.

  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    While I don't think they should just do away with Eureka as a whole, they really outdid themselves with the amount of new items that they put into that area.

    With the 4.45 patch, Eureka gets 1 of the new minions for sure, 2nd minion is assumed to be from there as well (the Wind-up Elvaan), the new mount , the new furnishings, one of the TT cards (assumed), the new hairstyle and the new emote. That's crazy. @.@ I can't imagine them giving any other specific content that many items at once.

    If they had released several new items in each category (minions, mounts, hairstyles, etc), it wouldn't seem so bad, but sadly that's not how SE works.

    Also i think this was probably better suited for one of the other threads, but I keep mixing them up. lol.
    It's pretty obvious they're just trying to bribe people to do it at this point
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  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esp View Post
    As much as I bitch about how I am not going into Eureka again, I still don't think it's fair to just ask them to stop outright.

    Sure a portion hate it, but there are people that are enjoying it. It's just not fair to rip the enjoyment from others just because some want it gone.

    Don't go in and do something else if you don't agree with it, but still, let the others have their fun.
    agreed , I am one of those who enjoy Eureka and don't feel the need to post on the forums explaining how I love it and hate raiding and that they should stop making raid content , this thread sounds very selfish to me , if you don't like some type of content that doesn't mean that everyone else hates it too
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  5. #145
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    Doki Waku
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    If you release at level 50, you delevel, and lose 12.6 million XP! Have fun finishing the quest sneaking past lvl 55 mobs! FUN!

    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN
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  6. #146
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    The existence of the welfare Tomestone weapon does not mean that, suddenly, the Relic wasn’t intended for the majority of players to participate in and achieve.
    Ok, call me nitpicky, but nothing in the post you quoted says anything about "intended for the majority". It only says that the requirement will be "a long period of time" instead of difficulty, that for some people is also a hard gate. And, it may be assumption on my part but when he says "playing solo", I think he meant "without a dedicated group", since it's hardly reasonable to farm that many tomestones without doing any group duty.
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Another point in that same post that I quoted for you is that the Relic also serves to give players a weapon that grows with them.
    Maybe I'm reading it wrong but I can't find that part :s.
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    By shoving it into Eureka, it made Eureka aimed at them by default.
    That's the problem, the official concept of Eureka does not match the concept of the old relics. So, people simply assumed that Eureka would be changed instead of the new relic being different, even if, between the Zodiac and the Anima, the purpose of the relic was already different.
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    And, as I’ve said many times, the Relic (and the other shinies) being in Eureka is the only reason people even touch the content, and that’s something I think the developers realized when they were creating the content.
    You can't really say that. Assuming the relic wouldn't be there, they would have had to put another interesting rewards in it (Since, no interesting reward would kill any content), and we don't know what participation would have been on that situation.
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Eureka doesn’t have anything deviating from any other forms of Relic grinds in past expansions though
    Oh yes, it does. No tomestones required at all. And, for me personally, that's a huge selling point, especially since tomestones are already the main way of gearing making old relics basically more expensive tome weapons.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 11-08-2018 at 06:28 PM.

  7. #147
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    If SE added a method to do the relic questline without having to go into Eureka I'd be happy and stop complaining about Eureka. I mean that would require serious story gymnastics to accomplish and totally won't happen but all the same, it would make me happy. I've said it elsewhere but if SE decides to lock future relics behind Eureka-style content again I will likely just stop playing FFXIV. Eureka ate up too much of Stormblood's content budget for something that I want no part of and at the same time made the relic questline... which should have been content perfect for me... something I can't engage in because its gated by Eureka. Eureka is awful and as far as I am concerned a terrible waste of development resources. I get that they can't back out of it at this point, but I really hope they decide not to repeat this travesty in any future xpacs.
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    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?

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    If that happens, then SE better give us an a casual way to obtain ilvl405 raid gear and weapons xD.
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  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    If that happens, then SE better give us an a casual way to obtain ilvl405 raid gear and weapons xD.
    They will, it's called "wait until the next expansion's first dungeon"
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  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    If you release at level 50, you delevel, and lose 12.6 million XP! Have fun finishing the quest sneaking past lvl 55 mobs! FUN!

    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN
    I feel like they introduced that auto-revive action specifically to try to reduce the risk of exploring without a group...though it only being a chance as opposed to guaranteed is silly.
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