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  1. #1
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I have never seen something pointless like Pagos. I am trying to catch up, while I do not hate grind itself but gating people (e.g. by not making it to FATE's) because to high level requirements for aetherytes, monsters on the roads always 1shotting people and also return has 10min cooldown, it is the biggest pointless instance/map I ever experienced in this entire game. Even useless trials like cape westwind or gilgamesh fights make more sense than this crap. You cant even die to port immediatly back to the base camp so you can port to a level 20! Fate (thx xp loss!). You are truly ****ed below 32, heads up Dev Team/Yoshida. Wish they would play Pagos and feel how it is as a returnee/new player.
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 11-09-2018 at 01:58 AM.

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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    If that happens, then SE better give us an a casual way to obtain ilvl405 raid gear and weapons xD.
    Savage honestly is pretty casual these days I literally have been pugging since Delta and have been completing them all....I think what’s holding casuals back from gettting the gear is simply effort.
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    Nariel Cendrenuit
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    Archer Lv 80
    Yoshida himslef said the relic is a timesink powerfull weapon for non raider, EVERY step of it require to do easy stuff or token you can get by doing easy stuff, even in Eureka its still easy stuff to do for a longtime. Eureka is the embodiment of casual gameplay. Eureka isn't designed to be a niche content, it appeal only to a niche. Whatever you can said about number of participation or who said what. Every thing in Eureka is easy casual gamelay not even requiring to actualy use more than 1 one of your skill to actualy do it, don't even require to play at all, you could get every item in Eureka by just AFKing and hit the target once to register your participation.

    Every activity of Eureka is a re-hash of older relic step with a new coat of paint. You can put it however you want, farming pyros crystal in fates isn't that different to farming tomestone. Logos cristal aren't that different of farming atma exept you need a lot of it. Farming light on trash mob/fate isn't that different than spamming A1S.
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    Last edited by Nariel; 11-09-2018 at 03:51 AM.

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    Odintius Baelsar
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Well I finally got to level 17 after all the grind to level trains ect I finally able to use a mount was happy. Then I zone out of instance and flew off to do my beastman dailies and then I was sad.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Pagos is a very strong gate. Perhaps one of the worst gates in the game in terms of proceeding in content.
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    Hiroes Libresta
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    umm k. I mean since you dont like it I'll tell everyone else its just not gonna happen anymore.
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    Schan Starfall
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    Moogle
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    I do wonder if the devs ever thought of Eureka moving forward...

    Because I don't know if you'll be able to solo it after it's outdated, unless it's insanely nerfed to the ground. It's just a reskinned old relic grind but with less options as others have pointed out. They should've known players usually doesn't like to be funneled into 1 thing nowadays. You could get away with it a few decades ago, but nowadays things are a bit different and from what I've seen Yoshi say he does understand this, so wth?

    It seems the latest trend if having the game companies disappoint their players. I'm off to see if Warframe follows suit with the patch they've dropped today.
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    Sylvina Eon
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Eureka is terrible and they DEFINITELY should not repeat the mistake in the next expansion, sadly it wont stop until then. I prefer the ARR or HW relic grinds to Eureka that's how bad it is. At least those are possible to do once the expansion is over, eureka wont be.
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    Lumis Arvalo
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 80
    First off, I dislike Eureka; mainly Pagos because of how terrible everything about that zone was, but overall Eureka misses the mark on the type of content that players are looking for. So, that said, you know what my opinion is on Eureka as a whole.

    However, right now, the dev team is likely done with most of major components of everything else we'll be seeing with this expansion. They likely started developing Eureka even before Stormblood released. So, at this point in the expansion's lifecycle, they're likely already done with the major work on Eureka as a whole. That just leaves minor tweeks. They're not going to completely redevelop a piece of content as large as this because of backlash over it as they probably have a development schedule they are sticking to in terms of what to release when.

    The only thing that threads like these accomplish is showing the devs what not to do in the future, which is good, but this isn't going to stop the last leg of Eureka from being released with whatever the design choices they've made are. That's coming down the pipeline whether or not the community wants it.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I am trying to go through pagos, but it is hard because its a barren wasteland because most people have either

    A: moved on to Pagos

    or

    B: Given up

    or

    C: Still in Anemos asking themselves why am I here.
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