Please stop making Eureka

[HyoMinPark]

Yeah right, they totaly won't gate more and more cool thing behind it like they do since years and will totaly rework already done instances.

Diadem died fast, close to no one did it and we still get Eureka, keep on dreaming embargo works on big companies.

Where was I talking about reworking Eureka?
I think it’s well past the point of no return. Any “reworks” now are simply damage control.

Based on your responses to those who replied to your first comment, it was clear that a nerve was struck. I’m sorry I disagree with blindly chasing carrots on a stick regardless of how miserable one is, and I’m sorry I disagree with sending the wrong message to game developers (i.e., “I’m not actually enjoying Eureka, but you’re going to think I am because I continue to throw myself into the content for those shiny carrots you dangle before me!”).

I think the developers are well aware that Eureka is a failure. I also think they were well aware that people wouldn’t touch the content if the Relic wasn’t shoved in there, which is why the Relic is in there in the first place. There’s carrot number one. Now that people dropped off in Pagos, they try to dangle more carrots—emotes, glamour, minions, mounts, and now housing items and hairstyles. I’ll never forget a review I read on Eureka right after Pagos was released, and it was fairly reasonable in its assessment and presentation: it said that the developers took the aspects most hated from FFXI and shoved them into a game where they simply will not work (mostly, I believe they were referring to the mob-chaining that Pagos is built on).


But, again, I’m sorry that I disagree with miserably chasing carrots.

My time in-game is better spent elsewhere.

nd keeping on "just don't do it it will change" is false

Again, where was I actively talking about non-participation sparking change?

Not participating seems to be the only way the developers will acknowledge that Eureka is a mess that most people do not like, because they don’t seem to listen to the constructive feedback given about it—or, if they do, it feels cursory at best. Stepping foot in there tells them that you will do whatever it takes to get a shiny, regardless of how miserable you are. And that’s not the message I want to send video game developers.

People are more than welcome to enjoy the content—but if you don’t enjoy it and go in anyways to chase the shiny carrot? Sorry, I don’t really agree with such a practice.

Nowhere in here did I say anything that non-participation would spark change. I said that it seems to be the only way to show them that Eureka is a mess, because clearly writing novels telling them as such doesn’t.

I love this game. But I will not be blind to its flaws, and I will not be miserable while playing it. No matter how pretty the carrot. If the grind isn’t worth it to me, it isn’t worth it.

[AbandonHopeTD]

The eureka instances are "busy" because there is 136 standing at the aether and 8 spawning nm's

[BillyKaplan]

keep on dreaming embargo works on big companies.

What embargo? The one where so many people say they hate it and keep doing it anyway? That one?

[Nariel]

Nha I don't tell everybody should enjoy it, I say people will keep do it for the reward because they love this reward more than they hate the content, they will complain about how much unfun it is, and keeping on "just don't do it it will change" is false, they will just recoat it with another paintcolor so yeah people still do it even if its boring, sure it have to change but be real, it won't even if only 10 people do it like diadem. Maybe because they love this game even if he have flaws who know ?!

[Krojack]

Why would you get rid of successful content?

Gotta make content before you know if it's successful or not.

[ElazulHP]

Oh it's far far to late for that. They're 3 Eureka's deep now. It's too late to stop this expansion. Perhaps next expansion they'll do something different. Then again perhaps not judging by the past two expansions. *shrugs* It's something to do at least. Patch has essentially nothing if you don't do Eureka.

[Krojack]

Please. just stop. at this point I would rather have less content in SB and better content in the next expansion. You're wasting everyone's time with this useless crapfest. And this is me being as nice as I possibly can.

It's a good thing you don't have to even do Eureka. It's not wasting my time when I'm in there. I have fun with my friends.

In short, stop trying to dictate what others might enjoy based on if you enjoy it or not. If Eureka was required content I might say otherwise.

[InkstainedGwyn]

Gotta make content before you know if it's successful or not.

That's fair, except in this situation they've had 3 iterations of the majority of players saying "no, no really, this isn't what we wanted" and they continue to implement the same stuff.

As for "well, it won't change anyway, so do it because you gotta have the thing" - that's fair, because it's your decision to make. And that's the kind of player they really want - "it's okay if it sucks, they'll do it anyway". I choose not to be that player, just like you can choose to be that player.

[Krojack]

Again, the content was all designed and mostly done before Eureka 1.0 was out. I don't recall people complaining about Eureke before the first part was out let alone THREE times before.

[Magic-Mal]

Again, the content was all designed and mostly done before Eureka 1.0 was out. I don't recall people complaining about Eureke before the first part was out let alone THREE times before.

Diadem 1.0, Diadem 2.0, Anemos and Pagos. They had time to get it straight by now with Pyros