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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    I'm going to go with the price of the subscription as being the main reason people are leaving. It's not because of powerleveling.
    Regardless of that. This thread is about powerleveling and not about subscription fees. I'm sure many will leave because of the fee alone and that wouldn't be considered in any hypothetical measurement.

    Also, fallacy. <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    Regardless of that. This thread is about powerleveling and not about subscription fees. I'm sure many will leave because of the fee alone and that wouldn't be considered in any hypothetical measurement.

    Also, fallacy. <3
    How is that fallacious?

    You'll have people leaving because of subscription fees, and those who will stay knowing full well there's powerleveling. Now are those people who are staying going to spontaneously quit over powerleveling in the future? I doubt it very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    How is that fallacious?

    You'll have people leaving because of subscription fees, and those who will stay knowing full well there's powerleveling. Now are those people who are staying going to spontaneously quit over powerleveling in the future? I doubt it very much.
    It's fallacious because you're bringing one unrelated subject as an invalidism to another. I already explained it in my first response.

    People think in many different ways, and opinions branch in all directions. People may quit for multiple reasons, be it subscription fee, lack of content, powerleveling, or even being butthurt by a rival in-game. I'm taking a logical, singular selection from these multiple reasons as it is for a singular change in gameplay. How many would leave because of this change?

    People may leave regardless of the change because of subscription fees, being butt-hurt, or bored, but those are all different reasons anyway. How many would leave, either way, specifically because of issues regarding powerleveling?

    What is the net worth of each group in this very specific sample?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    It's fallacious because you're bringing one unrelated subject as an invalidism to another. I already explained it in my first response.
    Well, I hate to break it to you, but you're the one being fallacious. You brought up powerleveling as a reason people would quit. It's not unrelated to point out that the prime motivation for people to quit any time soon is the introduction of fees. And those that remain past the point of fees are going to understand and accept how powerleveling works.

    So, basically, your question about powerleveling causing people to quit is moot. Those who quit will quit for the fees, and those who stay will stay in spite of the powerleveling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    Well, I hate to break it to you, but you're the one being fallacious. You brought up powerleveling as a reason people would quit. It's not unrelated to point out that the prime motivation for people to quit any time soon is the introduction of fees. And those that remain past the point of fees are going to understand and accept how powerleveling works.

    So, basically, your question about powerleveling causing people to quit is moot. Those who quit will quit for the fees, and those who stay will stay in spite of the powerleveling.
    There are plenty of reasons why people would quit a game, no one is denying that, the OP knows that.

    However, THIS thread in particular is discussing the "power leveling" aspect ONLY. So if you would like to discuss why people are quitting over the "subscription fee", you are welcome to start a new thread anytime, that's your prerogative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyrsIsley View Post
    There are plenty of reasons why people would quit a game, no one is denying that, the OP knows that.

    However, THIS thread in particular is discussing the "power leveling" aspect ONLY. So if you would like to discuss why people are quitting over the "subscription fee", you are welcome to start a new thread anytime, that's your prerogative.
    I am discussing the powerleveling aspect. I'm saying it's irrelevant to the big picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    I am discussing the powerleveling aspect. I'm saying it's irrelevant to the big picture.
    That's fine, there's nothing wrong with thinking that power leveling isn't the reason why people are quitting the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    I am discussing the powerleveling aspect. I'm saying it's irrelevant to the big picture.
    Then say just that, as that is your true, clear opinion. And in that, I request we agree to disagree. To me it is a much larger issue than subscription fees. As I said, people have a wide variety of opinions.
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