How do I know if I'm getting better?

[Nerfworthy]

Without using parses. Is it possible? I know of SSS, but the pass/fail doesn't help me very much. I don't want a "good enough" check, I want to know if my rotation is improving etc.

[Dualgunner]

Without parses, a stone sky sea dummy really is the only thing that can quantify your damage. There are sites like http://ffxiv.2digitalgames.de that will help out by putting solid numbers to your performance, and beyond even that just aim to kill the dummy faster each time, using leftover time / percent left at time out to gauge your performance.

[Lastelli]

Without using parses. Is it possible?

Nope. Also, SSS is mostly a gear check that has very little to do with skill and improvement as a player.

[Nerfworthy]

Well, that sucks. I'm learning MNK and I want to do it right. SE Doesn't make it easy, do they? lol

[Lastelli]

SE Doesn't make it easy, do they? lol

Not for the kind of player that wants to be an asset for his/her party. It makes it very easy for those players that don't care about fellow party members and just don't want to be held accountable for their performance.

[Nerfworthy]

Not for the kind of player that wants to be an asset for his/her party. It makes it very easy for those players that don't care about fellow party members and just don't want to be held accountable for their performance.

I just think of WoW and how the rotations are infinitely simple (like 4 buttons max usually + one or two longer CDs) in comparison to FFXIV dps jobs. This game really needs a supported way of gauging one's performance.

Otherwise like you said, it will only benefit the ones who don't care and prefer to be carried and leech off others who do care.

[Sylvain]

Yeah SSS is only useful to check if your gear is good enough or if do your rotation properly. The latter being only useful to new players or player trying out a new job.

It's by no mean an indication of your actual competence in a raiding environnement.

[Mirch]

you get better the moment you get a name, and people don't "omg look im with xxx yyy, demn nice lose gg, report this one"

[Caitlyn]

Nope. Also, SSS is mostly a gear check that has very little to do with skill and improvement as a player.

Indeed. With food and pots you can boost your damage, but at the end, it means nothing. SSS does not includes downtimes, mechanics, dodging, healing/shielding (for healers), using def cooldowns (for tanks), mitigation, group composition or buffs/debuffs.

So... without any parse, its not possible.

[Zerathor]

Well, if you really want to hate life, I knew a guy who legit read the ENTIRE combat log after fights and did math with the timestamps to essentially be a manual parser. Would not recommend that rout unless you just hate free time and sanity.

Most groups you run with will have at least one guy parsing. If you ask for something to be recorded or uploaded for you, they'll usually do it and give you a link. Even in DF stuff.