PvP and its Popularity

[dragonseth07]

Syncing the jobs was a good move. Condensing abilities was good on paper: less focus on playing the job and more focus on playing the match with who and where you target.

In practice, NOBODY actually plays to the match, so it fell flat. Nobody actually tries to win in PvP (except Maelstrom), or if they do, it's one person out of 24, so it doesn't matter. I've tried calling shots, and I get ignored or told to shut up. Everybody just runs around shooting each other while Mael takes another win.

In Feast, you'd think it would be better. But still people just do the same thing, run around aimlessly.

PvP could be good, but this community makes it garbage.

I think that's the point I would reiterate, actually: PvP could be good, but this community makes it garbage.

[NessaWyvern]

I think that's the point I would reiterate, actually: PvP could be good, but this community makes it garbage.

Pretty much this, I remember mentioning on a forum that PvP needs more modes and maybe some high ilvl gear rewards again, and you know what I got? Someone saying that more PvP would make this game like WoW, and since Wow is toxic, FFXIV would become toxic.
They literally thought more PvP in FFXIV would make the entire game more toxic *face-palms*

[van_arn]

Pretty much this, I remember mentioning on a forum that PvP needs more modes and maybe some high ilvl gear rewards again, and you know what I got? Someone saying that more PvP would make this game like WoW, and since Wow is toxic, FFXIV would become toxic.
They literally thought more PvP in FFXIV would make the entire game more toxic *face-palms*

WoW is such a boogeyman to this community I genuinely don't know what to tell people sometimes.

[Ilan]

WoW is such a boogeyman to this community I genuinely don't know what to tell people sometimes.

Thats because the people here judge by hearsay or 1 time events.

[Shurrikhan]

Pretty much this, I remember mentioning on a forum that PvP needs more modes and maybe some high ilvl gear rewards again, and you know what I got? Someone saying that more PvP would make this game like WoW, and since Wow is toxic, FFXIV would become toxic.
They literally thought more PvP in FFXIV would make the entire game more toxic *face-palms*

I think I've seen less toxicity in a couple thousand WoW Battlegrounds than in some fifty XIV Feast/Frontlines matches.

[NessaWyvern]

I think I've seen less toxicity in a couple thousand WoW Battlegrounds than in some fifty XIV Feast/Frontlines matches.

I have a theory about that, people tend to get more toxic when losing, and since in frontlines, only one team wins, you get more toxicity from the 2 losing teams, (plus one team gets mad when another team completely ruin both their chances at winning, adding to toxicity. ) Wow BGs have more diversity, so it entertains players for longer, players who are having fun are less salty :P