PvP and its Popularity

[Vahlnir]

I liked the pvp when the jobs had all their ability.

It's not fun now and the healers are annoying, the natural way to deal with healers in most pvp situations is to CC them, you can't do that when there's no cc. It's just completely awful, if they went back to how it was I would pvp more.

If people can stay focused long enough healers can be singled out and downed easily. However, in the heat of things people just sorta...shoot anything that moves. With healers on the opposing teams it's a waste of time and energy if they can't be dropped in a reasonable time frame.

[OurMom]

If people can stay focused long enough healers can be singled out and downed easily. However, in the heat of things people just sorta...shoot anything that moves. With healers on the opposing teams it's a waste of time and energy if they can't be dropped in a reasonable time frame.

You still need a decent amount of people and it still takes awhile for the healers to go down, it just shouldn't be that way. I don't think healers should be burned down easily but it's easier to balance it all when your jobs have cc to help deal with it.

[Vahlnir]

You still need a decent amount of people and it still takes awhile for the healers to go down, it just shouldn't be that way. I don't think healers should be burned down easily but it's easier to balance it all when your jobs have cc to help deal with it.

True, very true.

[ElazulHP]

Add in a ton of worthwhile rewards that more than a 100 people per server can work towards if you want to boost participation. Mounts, hairs, dyes, glamour, housing items, minions, ect. There must be something for everyone that everyone can attain if they work for it.

[AxlStream]

Implying rewards actually mean pvp is succesful. A good mode in any game can stand up on it's own. Rewards are a bonus. XIV's pvp fails at that tremendously hard.

[ElazulHP]

Implying rewards actually mean pvp is succesful. A good mode in any game can stand up on it's own. Rewards are a bonus. XIV's pvp fails at that tremendously hard.

Yes, but you're not going to fix PvP/get people to play without a complete overhaul or adding a ton of stuff they want. Adding stuff gives a boost now. Overhauling it probably won't happen outside the next expansion or beyond that. Rewards are better than nothing imo.

[Vahlnir]

Implying rewards actually mean pvp is succesful. A good mode in any game can stand up on it's own. Rewards are a bonus. XIV's pvp fails at that tremendously hard.

SE seems to prefer doing this instead of making the right changes:

[Repulse97]

If people can stay focused long enough healers can be singled out and downed easily. However, in the heat of things people just sorta...shoot anything that moves. With healers on the opposing teams it's a waste of time and energy if they can't be dropped in a reasonable time frame.

Oh my god in Ranked Feast. We'll literally be trying to burn down the enemy healer for 2 minutes and he'll be at full HP. AND THE SHIELDS!!! I absolutely detest healer shields. Even with coordination with my team (I play bard usually so I silence stuff) the healer will still be alive. Stun, silence directly after, nope, no effect cause the healer will be back at 100% HP in half a second. Astrologian mobility is also a little annoying.

[Alleo]

I think SE needs to accept that PVP will be a niche content in this game and not try to push it towards esports..Not only does their reward structure with exclusive timed rewards mean that a lot of people will miss out on it and might just not try it from the start but that it can also create a toxic behaviour if people dont play well. They should just create some new pvp armor that looks nice or some long time events like Garo that people can do but always with prices that you can get with wolfs marks.

In the end it will always remain small in this game and no amount of rewards will ever change that imo. (And I do get a bit annoyed at how much is put behind this. Why do hair styles needs to be there?)

[swiss_Momo]

+1 for Garo event, it's what got me into PvP after all. The number of wins you needed for the mounts were low enough to make them seem easily obtainable, unlike the normal 100 wins one. (while they are intended to keep the mode running long time, people that want them will just poopsock the mode before it might die. I'm looking at you Rival Wings) Also the gear was actually usable in PvE as catch-up gear or for alt classes.
Also there needs to be PvP novice hall, that explains you how to burst/focus target, the strats of each frontlines mode, how to use the different RW mechs ect. The fact that PvP just get's thrown at you without real explanation ingame is what kept me from trying it out before the Garo event.