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    Lot of people in this thread don't understand the difference between sex and gender. Which is totally understandable

    I went for the longest time thinking they were the same thing, and it doesn't help when surveys, registration forms, even the very video games that we're commenting about, will regularly use the two terms interchangeably. For some other countries, particularly a number of European ones from the looks of it, everything is so ridiculously and inappropriately "gendered" in their languages that I'm sure that also has to be an overall impediment to understanding what gender actually is, too.

    While errors do still happen, and while it may be that the language behind the two terms was different in the past, the terms aren't wholly interchangeable anymore.

    I don't want the dev team to waste time and financial resources on something that is relevant for <1% of the player base.
    I'm going to assume by this logic, you're also against them working on the higher tier savage/ultimate fights to the game, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    I'm going to assume by this logic, you're also against them working on the higher tier savage/ultimate fights to the game, too.
    I can assure you. The hardcore crowd actually has a basis. They pay for the game for the fights. This is not in the same vein as the absurdly small amount of people that want the millions of words of text changed so that they feel better and already pay. I promise you. As small as the hardcore group is, this group you're defending is even smaller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post

    I'm going to assume by this logic, you're also against them working on the higher tier savage/ultimate fights to the game, too.
    No, as data show that there are enough people interested in savage and ultimate fights. Also, ultimate in particular didn't require many resources since it's all reused assets and mechanics.
    Finally, that <1% is more like <0,01%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    For some other countries, particularly a number of European ones from the looks of it, everything is so ridiculously and inappropriately "gendered" in their languages that I'm sure that also has to be an overall impediment to understanding what gender actually is, too.
    There's nothing inappropriate about it. Quite the opposite. Thanks to that the language serves its function a lot better. You're just adding some social politics into language that is absolutely neutral in its function (even if it did form in social politics environment, which the dominance of male words and calling "negative" words largely female, like "death").

    In reality, it is EXTREMELY hard to have any difficulty in these "inappropriately gendered" languages to understand who you are talking about because it's hard to MAKE it ambiguous even if you want to...without it being suspicious or awkward-sounding. In comparison you could write an entire book in English without people ever finding out whether characters are female or male if you use unisex names or don't use names at all. That's not really in the European languages and you don't have to do anything special as an author. Sucks for mystery, but is a boon in just about every other kind of communication.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    While errors do still happen, and while it may be that the language behind the two terms was different in the past, the terms aren't wholly interchangeable anymore.
    You can use "gender" in every case you would use "sex". You cannot use "sex" in some of the cases you would use "gender". This is how it always was and it did not change at all nowadays.

    EDIT: On a different note...talking about "gender" and "sex" and whether they are interchangeable or not and blaming other languages traits for the meaning being muddled up is ignorant. Those other languages may not even distinguish between the words. In Polish there is only one word, "płeć". There is no "gender" or "sex". A separate word specifically for describing the biological state of a living being. For grammar gender there is "rodzaj" ("type" in English) and for the modern uses of the word "gender", we just use...gender. As in, the English word, without any change or whatsoever, as a borrowed word. Like Pizza.
    So if you want to blame a language for "gender" issues...blame English./EDIT

    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Doesnt even compare to the massive amount of text and the 4 languages this game supports.
    I think it supports more languages, actually. The "global" servers offer four languages, but there are region-locked versions it seems (going by Korean Questions and Answers), which need to be translated into as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Lot of people in this thread don't understand the difference between sex and gender. Which is totally understandable

    I went for the longest time thinking they were the same thing, and it doesn't help when surveys, registration forms, even the very video games that we're commenting about, will regularly use the two terms interchangeably. For some other countries, particularly a number of European ones from the looks of it, everything is so ridiculously and inappropriately "gendered" in their languages that I'm sure that also has to be an overall impediment to understanding what gender actually is, too.

    While errors do still happen, and while it may be that the language behind the two terms was different in the past, the terms aren't wholly interchangeable anymore
    Sorry, my language has only 1 word for sex and gender so for me it is the same and i don't understand the disscusions about it.
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