Non-binary option for characters, please?

[kamenkuro]

rofl


First of all, I don't think I'm being any more "combative" or "disrespectful" than many, many others in this thread have been. Second of all, I'm not here to gain anyone's approval.

You understand that that sort of attitude is why people don't agree with you. You present an idea that is unpopular and you become the anecdotal evidence that people use to frame people that have that same view as one from people who are unreasonable.

[Bahati]

I really can't stand people who need to "identify" with their characters in MMOs. Get a grip and stop living vicariously. This is a fantasy setting with fantasy concepts, races and lore. This is a story that has little to do with real life. Stop trying to insert yourself, your political views and your personal crusades into it.

OP can identify however they want but their character, in this game, will be male or female. If needed, pick whichever gender identity offends you the least and move on.

[Fynlar]

Right, you're just trying to change society by calling people uncultured and uncivilized.

I'm not trying to "change" anything, that's ridiculously futile. I'm just giving my opinions, like just about everyone else here.

I must say though, you people do seem quick to make the (somewhat bizarre, imo) logical leap that just because I call something your native language does as silly, behind the times, and potentially harmful to a subset of people... that it must be some sort of personal affront against the native speakers of that language. I hear people remark about how stupid English is all the damn time and I don't get all uppity and offended over it. Most of the time I even agree with it.

What I said is that you can use "gender" in any case you can use "sex", but it is not correct the other way around.

It doesn't matter what way you spin it, here. It is not correct because they are not the same things.

I'm not saying that what that person is saying won't be correct in a decade, two, five. I'm saying that it is NOT CORRECT NOW.

It's correct now. The erroneous sources just need to update themselves.

Even if they don't, that doesn't stop what's correct from being correct.

It really looks like you have a very shallow understanding of this game. You do realize that without raiding, crafting and gathering would be totally pointless, right?
Again, you do you remember what happened in 3.1, right? The raiding scene almost died, and the crafting and gathering scene died with it. Did you ever wonder why they decided to introduce the savage and, later, the ultimate difficulty?

Come on, it's not so hard.

But the point remains. Savage and ultimate content are the sole reason why a good chunk of the player base keep playing after reaching lvl 70.

rofl

The game didn't change at all for me and my friends. It didn't change for most people playing the game. Life went on just fine and game didn't die regardless of whatever debacles were going on with Alexander, which I don't even know about because that's just how important they were.

To put it bluntly, you (raiders) aren't that important.

Pronoun choice is not

I was never trying to argue that it was.

[Lastelli]

It's correct now. The erroneous sources just need to update themselves.

Even if they don't, that doesn't stop what's correct from being correct.

"it's correct because I say so and everyone who disagrees is wrong, once again, because I say so."

This is pure gold.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

I'm not trying to "change" anything, that's ridiculously futile. I'm just giving my opinions, like just about everyone else here.

You're basically saying anyone with a different opinion from yours is ignorant, among other things. That pretty much seems like a "change or else you'll stay ignorant"

I must say though, you people do seem quick to make the (somewhat bizarre, imo) logical leap that just because I call something your native language does as silly, behind the times, and potentially harmful to a subset of people... that it must be some sort of personal affront against the native speakers of that language. I hear people remark about how stupid English is all the damn time and I don't get all uppity and offended over it. Most of the time I even agree with it.

Mostly because a certain person seems to think that language is made by scholars in ivory towers, and not through natural evolution by the speaking masses. If you're saying that about a language, you're saying that about the language speakers, because they're the ones who make it.

It doesn't matter what way you spin it, here. It is not correct because they are not the same things.
It's correct now. The erroneous sources just need to update themselves.

Even if they don't, that doesn't stop what's correct from being correct.

It doesn't matter what you think. Until the majority accepts it, it's not correct. Not because a minority wants it to be.

[Velhart]

[pclarkson85]

rolling my eyes so hard right now.

[Fynlar]

"it's correct because I say so and everyone who disagrees is wrong, once again, because I say so."

This is pure gold.

Glad to see we agree.

You're basically saying anyone with a different opinion from yours is ignorant, among other things. That pretty much seems like a "change or else you'll stay ignorant"

The sex/gender thing isn't an opinion.

Mostly because a certain person seems to think that language is made by scholars in ivory towers, and not through natural evolution by the speaking masses. If you're saying that about a language, you're saying that about the language speakers, because they're the ones who make it.

No, most people do not "make" their language; they just imitate the work that others before them already did. (Some more poorly than others.)

Only a select few of them are influential enough (usually by pure chance) to effect change.

It doesn't matter what you think. Until the majority accepts it, it's not correct. Not because a minority wants it to be.

Sorry, that isn't how correct/incorrect works. Majority of the class getting the wrong answer doesn't suddenly make them right. Nice try though.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

The sex/gender thing isn't an opinion.

The way you claim it works is. Post your proof, since it's your claim btw.

No, most people do not "make" their language; they just imitate the work that others before them already did. (Some more poorly than others.)

Only a select few of them are influential enough (usually by pure chance) to effect change.

Sorry, but you have no clue of how language works. And I'm not saying that most people make their language, I'm saying the people as whole make it. Not because a small group decreed it to be so, and everyone else has to follow (which is what you're trying to push)

Sorry, that isn't how correct/incorrect works. Majority of the class getting the wrong answer doesn't suddenly make them right. Nice try though.

6000+ years of recorded human history prove it right. Not going to change because a couple of groups on Tumblr decided they wanted it to change.

[Jandor]

Sorry, that isn't how correct/incorrect works. Majority of the class getting the wrong answer doesn't suddenly make them right.

If everyone is getting it wrong, the answer is changed so the majority are right, check out the current definition of 'literally' for a recent example.