Things to think about before you call someone "Bad"

[Sylvina]

Some raiders are nice people some are the opposite, and the comments being posted on this thread are clearly showing which ones are which.

[van_arn]

Some raiders are nice people some are the opposite, and the comments being posted on this thread are clearly showing which ones are which.

Some of the spooky scary "raider' types that some of the more "it's just a game" types are allergic to are incredibly friendly. In fact, to make any progress at all in cooperative content requires a certain degree of sociability. They just expect teammates to do their share, and if the odd one out refuses they're not worth having on the team.

Which is all fine and dandy. That's what kicks are for! Kicking non-team players!

[Fhaerron]

Some raiders are nice people some are the opposite, and the comments being posted on this thread are clearly showing which ones are which.

Guess I'm not a nice person because I kick PLD that only uses shield lob and turns the boss cleave into melee their faces.


To be completely honest though, those raiders that kick bad players are actually the people that helped me perform better when I was quite new at this, I actually started raiding seriously back in 2009 in WoW and those 'OMG toxic elite people' have always been kind enough to point out my mistakes and give me constructive feedback (which you can draw from analyzing the DPS meters and parse logs), thanks to these people I eventually managed to get some servers first achievements.

Now to get more back on this game specific I've done quite some pug runs here too, even when it was my first time running. But I don't go join a farm or kill group when it's my first time. Also back on Suzaku I actually confused the pull and push-back causing me to run it when she was pulling or running back when she was pushing back, well I still have my head and my kills with half the group being pugs on the first time actually.
And you know why? Because I actually talk and especially when it's my first few runs I actually say that and tell what my issue or problem is. There was a kind soul to remind me of what text was what.

Communication people. Then there's also this magic thing like the internet where you can find all sorts of info and where you can even watch videos, weird huh.
Yes this is a game and not work but this is a game with learning. You have to learn your rotation, you have to learn mechanics in order to kill bosses especially in higher difficulty. Maybe this isn't the game for whoever thinks of this as work. There's always Hello Kitty online though although there you also have to learn that pressing B is jump and pressing A is interacting with objects ... hard stuff.

I find people that say no word and spam shield lob the entire fight, run their aoe marker into people and don't stack up on stack markers the actual toxic bad people and I have no issue initiating a vote kick or voting yes on one.


Not the whole post is aimed at you Sylvina, it's also more generally.