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    Things to think about before you call someone "Bad"

    1. Are they a new player?

    2. Did they recently change their UI/Binds or both?

    3. Are they having a bad day or are they feeling sick?

    Could be any of these things or more preventing someone from performing well. and to be fair most of the time I find it is.
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    1. If they are a new player it's not hard for them to say they are a new player.

    2. If they changed their UI/Binds then they should maybe get used to these changes before doing a dungeon.

    3. If you are sick then I would be resting trying to get better instead of playing FFXIV or if I'm having a bad day then I will maybe run with friends.

    What's with this forum trying to find ways to say people playing bad is fine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    1. If they are a new player it's not hard for them to say they are a new player.

    2. If they changed their UI/Binds then they should maybe get used to these changes before doing a dungeon.

    3. If you are sick then I would be resting trying to get better instead of playing FFXIV or if I'm having a bad day then I will maybe run with friends.

    What's with this forum trying to find ways to say people playing bad is fine?
    Getting used to UI changes as someone who's changed their UI a few times I can tell you for certain requires more than just dummy tests, especially if you are not dps. I never said its fine to be bad, everyone should try their best to get better. but shaming people for being bad does not help anyone get better. it only displays a bad attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    What's with this generation trying to find ways to say people underperforming or being lazy in any activity is fine?
    Fixed that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII View Post
    Fixed that.
    Was there really a point in that? Besides to be rude to a group of people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    1. If they are a new player it's not hard for them to say they are a new player.

    2. If they changed their UI/Binds then they should maybe get used to these changes before doing a dungeon.

    3. If you are sick then I would be resting trying to get better instead of playing FFXIV or if I'm having a bad day then I will maybe run with friends.

    What's with this forum trying to find ways to say people playing bad is fine?
    I’m busy with work a lot. If I’m sick, and I can’t fall back asleep, I’m going to use that time in FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    What's with this forum trying to find ways to say people playing bad is fine?
    it's because they themselves are bad. and are trying to lay out pre-emptive cover for their badness.
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    I'll preface this by saying I don't think people should harass or antagonize others, but it is absolutely insane how people make such a fuss out of the idea that people are bad at a video game, as though informing someone they are playing poorly is intrinsically an attack on their value as a person. If someone tells you that you're bad, maybe just shrug your shoulders and move on with your day because it doesn't really matter one way or the other. If you'd like to change that, there are plenty of self-help resources out there to help you improve at the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    1. Are they a new player?
    2. Did they recently change their UI/Binds or both?
    3. Are they having a bad day or are they feeling sick?
    Could be any of these things or more preventing someone from performing well. and to be fair most of the time I find it is.
    1) should just speak up, I might have tips that makes stuff easier.
    2) and 3) surely lower performance but it does not make you "run failing" or "no DPS to speak of" kind of bad.

    If you completely reword your key mappings, stay out of savage/ex until you get used to it. Dungeons shouldn't be a problem though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    [...]it is absolutely insane how people make such a fuss out of the idea that people are bad at a video game, as though informing someone they are playing poorly is intrinsically an attack on their value as a person.
    Most people cannot deal with critique, be it IRL or in a video game. That being said: only telling them that they are bad is not helpful. If you spot them making critical mistakes, provide a solution alongside with the critical remark. Way more helpful. They will still bitch and be pissed that you dared to critique Gods gift to gaming but they cannot accuse you of flaming if you criticize constructively.
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    In that case, they should probably not be doing harder content at first. the "new player" excuse should have worn off by level 70, and changing your UI immediately before doing an EX primal or anything remotely difficult should be a no-no, practice in a dungeon or on a dummy first.
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