Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
Doesn't matter what the Smiths say, either, because nobody pays attention to that anyway. Not even Square.

Mentor's just a dumb crown thing that means something different to every person. The roulette is only another roulette with high requirements, and as just another roulette you have the option to bail or votekick as you personally see fit.

You can go on and on about what you think Mentor should be based off of what Yoship wishes and hopes for, but hopes and dreams mean nothing against the practical truth of the design itself.

That practical truth is if someone's cleared every bit of content available in the game, they're wasted on Praetorium or Castrum. The other practical truth is even if one can avoid Castrum/Praetorium by avoiding the MSQ roulette, that doesn't make these quality dungeons. Square's failed them both by overnerfing the combat encounters and requiring far too many cutscenes, and -- even if they can be avoided -- they need to be decommissioned or reworked. Increasing incentives does not magically make these poor design decisions good; they're still garbage.
That's your truth, or your opinion, if you want. I gave you examples of similar attitudes that I'm sure that even you would be against. Just because you want to play something a certain way, against it's design, it doesn't mean that everyone else has to accept it.

Also, people truly interested in using their mentorship, and not in just wearing an "honor badge", read all that text. Just because you didn't that doesn't mean that everyone else didn't, either. In fact, from what I see on the Novice Network it would seem that you're a tiny minority, thankfully.

Only truth up there is that the dungeons were badly designed... for the west. As I said years ago, SE didn't think about the cultural differences and about how selfish or self-centered the western playerbase is. That was their fault, yeah, and they learned from it (even if sometimes they still make similar mistakes related to those differences).

And about the rewards, plenty of people run the MSQ roulette because it's worth it for them to do it. They can do it while half busy, or when they want to be relaxed while still playing and advancing, and all that exactly thanks to the resons that you stated. For those people these rewards are actually more than nice. If want to play more actively, do something else.

To finish this, I'll say something: if you hate being treated like children, don't act like one. It's sad that SE has to make changes to "police" us so that we stop making other people's experience worse. Notice how all these issues are exclusive to us.