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    Quote Originally Posted by Melondra View Post
    Sorry but agreeing to be a mentor means your in it to assist new players, this is what you are being rewarded for, dropping out as a mentor just because the Castrum or Pra comes up is bad mentor behaver, as a mentor you are needed to assist new players regardless of what dungeon it is. If you do not wish to continue that role then your mentor statis should be revolked.
    Being a mentor doesn't mean that I, or any other mentors, are required to do anything. We exist however to help when we can, however we can. If we don't feel like it we don't feel like it. There are no obligations. But if at least some of us didn't want to be helpful, we would leave our crowns off. I leave mine on. That doesn't mean I'm at anyone's beck and call though. There are some people who probably shouldn't be mentors but wear the crown anyway, but that's not everyone.
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    I am glad they did that. At first I thought I will have to skip those scenes and view them later, at my inn room, since that was the perception I got from watching guides. But I guess those guides were old and my experience in Castrum and Praetorium was much better because of this change. I do understand those that do not want to watch them for the n-th time, as they are unnecessarily long and they do appear to be longer than fights themselves. But you guys do have countless other dungeons, trials or raids to farm, while 1-50 MSQ only has those two to finish it and watching cutscenes while doing dungeon does make the entire experience more enjoyable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Being a mentor doesn't mean that I, or any other mentors, are required to do anything. We exist however to help when we can, however we can. If we don't feel like it we don't feel like it. There are no obligations. But if at least some of us didn't want to be helpful, we would leave our crowns off. I leave mine on. That doesn't mean I'm at anyone's beck and call though. There are some people who probably shouldn't be mentors but wear the crown anyway, but that's not everyone.
    Thank you for clearing out who or what mentor is supposed to be. I was thinking of contacting a mentor for some help, but now I will think twice before I approach one of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamepob View Post
    I am glad they did that. At first I thought I will have to skip those scenes and view them later, at my inn room, since that was the perception I got from watching guides. But I guess those guides were old and my experience in Castrum and Praetorium was much better because of this change. I do understand those that do not want to watch them for the n-th time, as they are unnecessarily long and they do appear to be longer than fights themselves. But you guys do have countless other dungeons, trials or raids to farm, while 1-50 MSQ only has those two to finish it and watching cutscenes while doing dungeon does make the entire experience more enjoyable.



    Thank you for clearing out who or what mentor is supposed to be. I was thinking of contacting a mentor for some help, but now I will think twice before I approach one of you.
    It's people like yourself that need to understand what a Mentor is. You clearly don't. Believe it or not, we are players just like everyone else. And true mentors help those in need of assistance to the best of their ability or for however much time they're able. But there are times where we can't or are unwilling to do so. We've got things to do too, you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It's people like yourself that need to understand what a Mentor is. You clearly don't. Believe it or not, we are players just like everyone else. And true mentors help those in need of assistance to the best of their ability or for however much time they're able. But there are times where we can't or are unwilling to do so. We've got things to do too, you know.
    I agree. I don't (didn't) understand what a Mentor is. Hence me thanking you before. I thought a Mentor is someone with a knowledge of skills and/or other game systems AND the desire to help others. I am guessing it's a boss/leader type situation. You know, everyone can be a boss, but only certain individuals can be a leader.

    Again, thank you. Information like that will help me understand the game better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamepob View Post
    Thank you for clearing out who or what mentor is supposed to be. I was thinking of contacting a mentor for some help, but now I will think twice before I approach one of you.
    Oh boy! Has this become another thread talking trash about mentors? We never have quite enough of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melondra View Post
    Sorry but agreeing to be a mentor means your in it to assist new players, this is what you are being rewarded for, dropping out as a mentor just because the Castrum or Pra comes up is bad mentor behaver, as a mentor you are needed to assist new players regardless of what dungeon it is. If you do not wish to continue that role then your mentor statis should be revolked.
    Nah, you are rewarded for completing the mentor roulette, not for being an actual mentor. And as long as the rewards exist I think it is completely fine to run the roulette only for the rewards and to drop out of any content you don't like / takes too much time.
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    If you're doing them as Mentor, or doing the Mentor roulette (and thus agreeing to get ANY duty, even those that you hate), then I assume that you want to help other players. In the case of the MSQ dungeons specifically it would include to be nice and wait, which in turn would basically make it pointless to skip any cutscenes.


    If that's not the case, as I can seem to notice from your post, I would like you to read again the Mentor description and warnings in one of the Smiths. You're free to use your Mentor status as you wish, but you have no right to complain if you aren't using it as intended. In fact, other people could actually complain about your attitude.
    No, what I want are the 2000 mentor roulette clears for the mount.


    You can drop the pointless lecturing. I've made my stance clear. This was a boneheaded change on SE's part and this is my way of protesting it.


    I'm also not going to just stop progress on getting my mount just because they ruined 2 dungeons out of the hundred+ things on the roulette.


    Sorry but agreeing to be a mentor means your in it to assist new players, this is what you are being rewarded for, dropping out as a mentor just because the Castrum or Pra comes up is bad mentor behaver, as a mentor you are needed to assist new players regardless of what dungeon it is. If you do not wish to continue that role then your mentor statis should be revolked.

    {That's too bad.}


    The dungeons are a joke, they can probably be cleared with a light party with how overgeared they are nowadays. I'm not needed there and I sure don't need to waste close to an hour of my time in there when most other things on the roulette can be cleared in 20 minutes or less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    No, what I want are the 2000 mentor roulette clears for the mount.


    You can drop the pointless lecturing. I've made my stance clear. This was a boneheaded change on SE's part and this is my way of protesting it.


    I'm also not going to just stop progress on getting my mount just because they ruined 2 dungeons out of the hundred+ things on the roulette.





    {That's too bad.}


    The dungeons are a joke, they can probably be cleared with a light party with how overgeared they are nowadays. I'm not needed there and I sure don't need to waste close to an hour of my time in there when most other things on the roulette can be cleared in 20 minutes or less.
    And I hope you do get EX primals in your Mentor Roulettes, especially Titan, Mog, Ramuh, Thordan, Sephirot, Nidhogg, or Zurvan EX.

    When I do get CM or Prae in Mentor Roulette, even with the skippable cutscenes, I know I'm gonna clear them compared to ANY EX Primal, Ultima Hard, or Odin. I will still get rewarded gil, tomes, and a win for my mentor roulette streak. Rewards that I won't take for granted and sure as hell won't squander, especially when I do Main Scenario Roulette.

    Also, there will be 4-man dungeon runs that will have below-average players who will make the dungeon last longer than 30 minutes. Will you bite the bullet through completing the dungeon or taking a 30-minute penalty. It's not a question of if that will happen, but when as you pursue your Astrope mount goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    No, what I want are the 2000 mentor roulette clears for the mount.


    You can drop the pointless lecturing. I've made my stance clear. This was a boneheaded change on SE's part and this is my way of protesting it.


    I'm also not going to just stop progress on getting my mount just because they ruined 2 dungeons out of the hundred+ things on the roulette.





    {That's too bad.}


    The dungeons are a joke, they can probably be cleared with a light party with how overgeared they are nowadays. I'm not needed there and I sure don't need to waste close to an hour of my time in there when most other things on the roulette can be cleared in 20 minutes or less.
    I'm not lecturing you, I'm telling you the facts. Mentorship is not for that, period, and the rewards are there as that, as a reward for doing that job so that you get something out of it other than just helping someone, as a "thank you". You can use it as you please, but then you have absolutely no right to complain when you are not using it as intended. You can like it or not, but that doesn't change that you are a bad mentor. Good mentors even take their crowns off when they aren't in the mood of helping, but there's a reason as of why the mentor roulette forces you to turn it on.

    As for what mentorship is for, yes, we exist to help when we can, however we can. But if you do something like going into the mentor roulette you're agreeing to get into absolutely any duty. As I said, it even forced you to turn your mentor status on, so it's clear that you have to go with a helpful and patient attitude in there. Also, other than help, remember that mentors are supposed to be an example of good etiquette (if you don't remember that part, I kindly ask you to talk with the Smith again). The behavior shown up there is not good etiquette, at all.

    Also, joining and then leaving the duty if you don't like what you got means that you potentially took the spot of someone else that then had to wait more to get in there. I know that this way of thinking is not popular in the west nowadays, but your time is not worth more than that of someone else.

    And, for everyone else, I repeat it: You are NOT forced to do the MSQ roulettes. There's no exclusive rewards, and there's more optimal ways to get these tomes and exp. Just don't run them, and if you are truly needed there as you seem to think, SE will do something. It's as easy as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SEsucks View Post
    Hello,

    I was curious why I can no longer skip cut scenes in the MSQ roulette. Some people may need to watch them, some people may have seen them before, and some may not care to see them at all. If you actually sit through the whole roulette, you would notice the cut scenes now take longer then the actual fighting (ie you are watching movies more then actually playing the game). I feel forcing us to watch content we have already seen is a waste of time.

    Try creating a system where if a new player has not seen the cut scene they cannot skip it the first time so you are not punishing the rest of us with a time sink.

    My .02
    This is a common thing with everything. Not only in this game, but life. For simplicity sake though, I will stick with the game. It is always much tougher to get to the meat, than it is to actually eat it. As an example, when I craft, it takes me WAY longer to acquire the means and the mats to craft something difficult than it does to actually craft it. The same can be said for MSQ roulette. The battles are short and brainless, but the cutscenes are filled with story content, and that is the purpose.

    Don't go into MSQ roulette expecting any kind of hard fought battle to clear. If you do, you're probably five years late to the game. This roulette is all allowing first timers experiencing the story as intended.
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