Skipping cutscenes in MSQ Roulette

[User201810101046]

Hello,

I was curious why I can no longer skip cut scenes in the MSQ roulette. Some people may need to watch them, some people may have seen them before, and some may not care to see them at all. If you actually sit through the whole roulette, you would notice the cut scenes now take longer then the actual fighting (ie you are watching movies more then actually playing the game). I feel forcing us to watch content we have already seen is a waste of time.

Try creating a system where if a new player has not seen the cut scene they cannot skip it the first time so you are not punishing the rest of us with a time sink.

My .02

[Paladinleeds]

Won't work for one simple reason: People will either kick the new player (to allow skippable cutscenes), or someone will bail and take the 30 minute penalty (in Prae, it'd actually be quicker to take the penalty and hope for a no new player thing in the next group), and everyone else follows without penalty. Either that, or players will just force "Duty Complete" PFs for MS Roulette to allow for the skipping of cutscenes, thus new players won't be able to experience the story anyway.

[Reynhart]

If you do that, a single new player will get kicked every time as long as you have four veterans so that they can rush their roulette in 15 minutes.

The rewards of the roulette were increased so that if you need XP and poetic tomestones, the MSQ roulette is still a pretty efficient option.

[ChaseNetwork]

There's this one show called Old Boy. It's a chinese drama. Has 45 episodes that are about 50 minutes long, each. I only watched this show during MSQ Roulette cutscenes. Finished, and currently looking for a new show. Honestly, I think this is perfect for people that have the bandwidth. Yoshi recently stated in an interview that FFXIV needs to compete with all forms of media, including things like shows and movies. This is a great way to not make people choose! Just don't let them actually play during the MSQ Roulette.

[Vidu]

You can no longer skip cutscenes because new players were rushed through them, left out of fights alltogether and found themself alone in certain parts of the dungeon with all bosses cleared and the group already on their way out.

There were countless complains from people who wanted to enjoy the final dungeon of the game, but couldnt because its poorly designed and people arent willing to wait for the new person, even if they get compensated with bonus tomes.

If you consider watching the cutscenes a waste of time, I'd advice you to stay out of the Mainstory-Roulette alltogether. You get compensated for the time spent there with tomes or exp and if you dont feel that you get enough for your time: Dont do it.
The only thing that I could see "working" is that you're allowed to skip the cutscene, so you dont have to watch it again, but get put into some sort of "freeze" that prevents you to continue with the dungeon until everyone has finished their cutscene, like bossrooms being locked or something like that.

If a new player doesnt want to watch the cutscenes... well, I suppose they just gonna have to sit down through them once and then never again.

You have an option to skip the cutscenes: Skip the roulette.

[ChaseNetwork]

The complaints were at their worst during ARR, year 1. When players were actually still trying to first-time clear those dungeons at a pretty high rate. I can't imagine when most parties I see in there are Level 70, that someone's doing a first time clear.

It is incredibly odd to me that they did this change four years after the fact, as they released Stormblood. I don't buy it was because of complaints. There's a different reason.

[Jijifli]

The complaints were at their worst during ARR, year 1. When players were actually still trying to first-time clear those dungeons at a pretty high rate. I can't imagine when most parties I see in there are Level 70, that someone's doing a first time clear.

It is incredibly odd to me that they did this change four years after the fact, as they released Stormblood. I don't buy it was because of complaints. There's a different reason.

This kinda points something out.

Now I didn't play on 2.0, but from what I heard, there originally was no MS roulette. And what happened because there was no roulette was new players got completely stuck. People did not want to run that place after the first time, ever. The roulette was put in place to give people a reason to go back, so players could actually do story without having a 2 hour wait time as tank.

So this is part of the issue with the "force cutscene" change. This caused some people to not want to do the roulette. The point of the roulette is to get people into the dungeon. kinda beats the point to make a change to it that made some players not want to go in there.

And as for "But it was skip cutscenes or miss fight", this is NOT even the first dungeon to put a longer cutscene. Sure, this is the severe case, but let's go back to Thousand maws. You know, the 24 dungeon? Ya, you can kill the last boss before the newbie gets to finish the story cutscene. So we gonna force that one too?

[Berethos]

The point of the roulette is to get people into the dungeon. kinda beats the point to make a change to it that made some players not want to go in there.

Which is why they looked to offset the thing that made some players not want to go in there by adding the XP/tomestone incentive. For some that still isn't enough, for others it's actually enough to get them to run it more often (I legitimately run the MSQ roulette more now than I did before the change - it's a pretty low key run with some good music and a decent reward at the end, especially for my non-70 classes).

to make everyone suffer.

Awww, that optional roulette you don't have to enter must cause so much pain.



And the option still exists in all the other duties you can run. You want to skip them in the two from the MSQ roulette? You lose the high xp and increased tomestone reward. Willing to make that trade?

[Kuzulo]

I've always been skipping them, since so far it allows me to.

I must have not got to a "no skip" part yet. I'm up to the level 42, or so, MSQs.

I just assumed other people might not like me NOT skipping them, so they might boot me (coming from Wow, this would not seem uncommon...)

However, I've yet to do "roulettes." Is that where they DON'T let you skip them?

So you mean, all this time I could have been WATCHING them?

[van_arn]

I've always been skipping them, since so far it allows me to.

I must have not got to a "no skip" part yet. I'm up to the level 42, or so, MSQs.

I just assumed other people might not like me NOT skipping them, so they might boot me (coming from Wow, this would not seem uncommon...)

However, I've yet to do "roulettes." Is that where they DON'T let you skip them?

So you mean, all this time I could have been WATCHING them?

The thread is about two dungeons you'll hit at 50 which each last about 40-50 minutes (watch someone swoop in with amigad its totally 35min), most of which is eye-roll unskippable animu cutscenes and even worse boss fights.

Don't look forward to it. Most of the people that profess to enjoy them (not all) are players looking back on them with rose-tinted glasses, people that like to watch Netflix more than they like to play the game, or ... people that like Youtube more than they like to play the game.

I've had more complaints with new players treating them as a rite of passage rather than anything worth experiencing.

To make matters worse, I wish I could tell you it gets better after these dungheaps of dungeons, but no-- the leadup to Heavensward is an object lesson in a development team not having any idea what to do next until suddenly they have a decent idea right before Heavensward starts.