A little scared of the future

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

But there is a time limit, the mobs will eventually kill you just like the dragon heads

A DPS check is specifically "Do a certain amount of damage in a short amount of time." If I go to Heavensward content, attack a Level 60 monster, AFK, and get killed because I stood there for five minutes and let it beat me to death, that isn't a DPS check. That's inactivity.

[van_arn]

The question is, what can be done here? How can we make lazy healers at least not be so terrible at healing? They say they signed up to heal and do nothing else, but they don't even do that right. But maybe I'm just salty because I've seen that way too often recently.

Simple, kick the lazy healers every single time you come across one. Make them uncomfortable to queue up for any content if they haven't figured out their buttons, and hold their quest progression hostage until they know the basics for the content they're trying to clear. Do not let a healer clear anything they aren't capable of healing.

[Dirwen]

So it is fine for people to waste other peoples time with beeing lazy, but it is not ok to tell them that they are wasting my time? What kind of weird logic is this? We all pay a sub in this game so we all should be that polite that we don't waste other peoples time with beeing lazy.

Problem is you make it sound like it happens often which it doesn't though. If it happens a lot then that means the majority of people have subpar skills then the problem is you. Majority always rule after all. Knowing SE they will cater to the majority as there is more profit in that. They are a business not your friend.

Also, you have the right to say someone is wasting your time but they also have that right no? It goes both ways. What point am I trying to make? Well gotta take the good with the bad if you play an MMO with random strangers. Pretty sure every game has this problem and there is no real solution no matter how much you complain.

[van_arn]

Problem is you make it sound like it happens often which it doesn't though. If it happens a lot then that means the majority of people have subpar skills then the problem is you. Majority always rule after all. Knowing SE they will cater to the majority as there is more profit in that. They are a business not your friend.

Also, you have the right to say someone is wasting your time but they also have that right no? It goes both ways. What point am I trying to make? Well gotta take the good with the bad if you play an MMO with random strangers. Pretty sure every game has this problem and there is no real solution no matter how much you complain.

Don't "gotta" do anything. Kick more.

[Dirwen]

Don't "gotta" do anything. Kick more.

I agree if they are easily replaced. Waiting on reps can be bad. Not to mention what if the rep you get does the same thing as the person you kicked? XD

[van_arn]

I agree if they are easily replaced. Waiting on reps can be bad. Not to mention what if the rep you get does the same thing as the person you kicked? XD

If they're bad enough to get kicked, you're not going to get someone just as bad or worse as a replacement. And don't shy away from kicking a healer or tank, either-- if it takes more than a minute to replace them, you can bail on the dungeon without penalty (due to not being at 4) and requeue.

[Dirwen]

If they're bad enough to get kicked, they're not going to be hard to replace with someone better. And don't shy away from kicking a healer or tank, either-- if it takes more than a minute to replace them, you can bail on the dungeon without penalty and requeue.

As a DPS that gets long queue it's not a good option. People are super sensitive nowadays and I learned to tolerate it. Personally, I don't like being dead weight so if I find myself not up to par I mostly avoid the fight/content if it's optional. I been leveling a tank job for fast queue but I dislike the role and will not be using it for content outside of exping.

[van_arn]

As a DPS that gets long queue it's not a good option. People are super sensitive nowadays and I learned to tolerate it. Personally, I don't like being dead weight so if I find myself not up to par I mostly avoid the fight/content if it's optional. I been leveling a tank job for fast queue but I dislike the role and will not be using it for content outside of exping.

Tolerating it is the very source of the problem.

[Dirwen]

Tolerating it is the very source of the problem.

The world isn't fair. Pretty sure your parents told you to play nice with the other kids even if you didn't want to.

[van_arn]

The world isn't fair. Pretty sure your parents told you to play nice with the other kids even if you didn't want to.

What you just posted has nothing to do with the conversation. Tolerating people that don't know the basics of their job is the very source of the problem of players that don't know the basics of their job advancing in the game.

They need to be kicked, for their own good.