A little scared of the future

[Ifrinne]

I have been at final fantasy ever since 3.1 was just out and generally tend to take time on content, prefering more to replay older stuff than to charge right into new stuff. Sure because i have many characters and love HW. Anyhow! In SB, and sure in 4.4 dungeon difficulty seems to have shot up lots and i was in continuous panic mode to say in the burn final boss. If this trend continues, i feel people more and more may be discouraged from the game. (Im not talking about ones who: do raids, 24man content, savage or extreme) or become locked in only doing older content. The burn isnt the only one that seems harder than what one would expect of casual stuff but its a big spike.

[Sigma-Astra]

Will I admit that the DPS check on the Mist Dragon is tighter than usual? Yes.

Is it as huge of a difficulty spike as you're getting at? No.

Casual players need to stop relying on dungeons where they can lay dead on the floor for the entire fight so long as 2-3 people know what they're doing.

Relax. It's not that bad.

[Rokke]

Casual players need to stop relying on dungeons where they can lay dead on the floor for the entire fight so long as 2-3 people know what they're doing.

Thisssssssss. People are so unused to pressing buttons that suddenly anything harder than faceroll is "impossible for casuals!"

[TalonAnchors]

Will I admit that the DPS check on the Mist Dragon is tighter than usual? Yes.

Huh? There's no DPS check on Mist Dragon

[Tint]

Huh? There's no DPS check on Mist Dragon

Actually there is one, when he jumps away the first time and spawns 3 adds / heads wich have to be killed before the aoe on the ground grows too big.

Yes, it is a bit tighter than usual, but still not that hard. We can expect a little check for the DDs from time to time, when tanks and especially healers getting checked all the time, no?

[Sigma-Astra]

Huh? There's no DPS check on Mist Dragon

Yes, there is. If you have poor DPS (and I have seen it), the large floor AOE will expand all the way towards the edge if all four of those dragon head adds aren't dead. You will wipe at that part and have to restart the fight from the beginning.

[Fhaerron]

Yes, there is. If you have poor DPS (and I have seen it), the large floor AOE will expand all the way towards the edge if all four of those dragon head adds aren't dead. You will wipe at that part and have to restart the fight from the beginning.

I've had multiple groups where DPS were derping and weren't able to kill the dragon heads.

Never wiped once on that part. tank can use CD's and I always use cover on the healer if that happens. Nobody (should) die if they're at full HP, you get vuln debuffs at most, I also pop my wings sometimes but when you have derp DPS's they can't even get into shelter.

[Fhaerron]

Yes, there is. If you have poor DPS (and I have seen it), the large floor AOE will expand all the way towards the edge if all four of those dragon head adds aren't dead. You will wipe at that part and have to restart the fight from the beginning.

I've said it to someone else in this thread but that's no DPS check.

I've survived that part multiple times with derp DPS. I pop CD's and use cover on healer, we get heavy damage and vuln debuffs but it's not hard to recover from.

[Sigma-Astra]

I've said it to someone else in this thread but that's no DPS check.

I've survived that part multiple times with derp DPS. I pop CD's and use cover on healer, we get heavy damage and vuln debuffs but it's not hard to recover from.

I've had multiple groups where DPS were derping and weren't able to kill the dragon heads.

Never wiped once on that part. tank can use CD's and I always use cover on the healer if that happens. Nobody (should) die if they're at full HP, you get vuln debuffs at most, I also pop my wings sometimes but when you have derp DPS's they can't even get into shelter.

Saying that there's no DPS check just because you've had capable parties and anecdotal evidence to prove to yourself it's not does not nor will it ever exclude the fact that it is a DPS check and it is ruled as one by the majority.

Anyone can see plain as day that the adds need to be DPS'd down as fast as possible or you're going to suffer for no reason other than party incompetence.


Sorry, but you're on the losing side of the fence here.

[TalonAnchors]

Yes, there is. If you have poor DPS (and I have seen it), the large floor AOE will expand all the way towards the edge if all four of those dragon head adds aren't dead. You will wipe at that part and have to restart the fight from the beginning.

Isn't this more of an AFK check?