A little scared of the future

[Lunalepsy]

Don't worry... We'll hold your hand! <3

[Fhaerron]

Don't worry... We'll hold your hand! <3

There's too much handholding as it is.

We (and the game) actually need to do the opposite.

[Fhaerron]

Yes, there is. If you have poor DPS (and I have seen it), the large floor AOE will expand all the way towards the edge if all four of those dragon head adds aren't dead. You will wipe at that part and have to restart the fight from the beginning.

I've had multiple groups where DPS were derping and weren't able to kill the dragon heads.

Never wiped once on that part. tank can use CD's and I always use cover on the healer if that happens. Nobody (should) die if they're at full HP, you get vuln debuffs at most, I also pop my wings sometimes but when you have derp DPS's they can't even get into shelter.

[Alestorm]

Honestly I think the game should get a little more difficult at this point in the expansion, we've been lvl 70 long enough we should know how to play our class.

[van_arn]

Stop being bad or quit.

If you don't want to improve, you've already quit.

[Ifrinne]

Surprising. The conversation seems to have now polarized on how to do the burn dungeon. While that wasnt even the point perse. A cause, yes. Aint it best to just let this one be and make a new thread on the burn specifically?

[HyoMinPark]

2. I had the tank on the northern edge of the area, a dps at the southeastern edge and one at the southwestern edge of the circle thus i was chanceless of healing them all in time and i had to rely on single target spells at times.

For this, stand near the DPS (about halfway between each), and catch them with AOE healing while using your oGCD single-target heals on the tank (plus a Regen). I’ve only ever healed this dungeon, and I don’t have any issue catching DPS in Narnia with Aspected Helios, which has a smaller radius than Medica II if I’m remembering the tooltips correctly.

Another option is you can tell them to move in for AOE heals or not get healed at all. People tend to listen when you do this, and, if they don’t, then that’s their own problem. I won’t chase people down on healers that don’t want to be in range for AOE healing/mitigation; and if other healers won’t either, then maybe they’ll learn to move in.

[Sylvina]

Stop being bad or quit.

If you don't want to improve, you've already quit.

How toxic. You have zero right to tell people to quit regardless of their level of skill. If someone does NOT want to improve (WHY THOUGH!!) that's really on them and it's not your job to be a jerk about it.

[TaiyoShikasu]

How toxic. You have zero right to tell people to quit regardless of their level of skill. If someone does NOT want to improve (WHY THOUGH!!) that's really on them and it's not your job to be a jerk about it.

He's not wrong though. Pity the party of anyone who is not only bad, but makes no effort to get not bad.

Nearly 1800 page thread about DF and reading through them and how bad people are, you wonder how they can be so bad and somehow find joy in this game when they are a burden on every party they encounter.

[KittyPr]

I never do savage/X stuff ... i only did the poneys during HW and the HW birds during SB ....and Alex1S for the HW relic .
Some things in this game are unnecessarily difficult , like the Stormblood quest ( shinryu ) or the 4.3 primal , in fact even 1 year after you are almost sure to fail the first try if you have Susano in the trial roulette ....

But these threads have to stop , the burn IS NOT hard at all ... it has the same difficulty than Aurum Vale / The Vault , and the mog dungeon in HW -i forgot the name .
Even the previous expert roulette , with The Swallow's Compass was harder than this one , during 4.3 i got my tomestones in Eureka / Hunts / HoH to don't have to bother with it .