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    Jijifli's Avatar
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhearil View Post
    To get good damage you need:

    A: Learn the proper rotation and repeat it until it becomes muscle memory---> you can do this on a dummy for example
    B: Learn the mechanics of the encounter to avoid losing dps due to gimmicks or even dieing--->Watch videos or just face the enemy as long as its needed

    With those 2 perfectly clear (easier said than done, it takes time) you are already reaching a high level competence of your job and you should be fine on almost any content but the most demanding ones. Even then, there are more ways to further improve:

    A: Learn what can you push with your ping and skill speed(like double weaving)
    B: Customize your gear to get the best bang of your bucket stat pool
    C: Coordinate with your team while using raid buffs

    Just to mention a few.
    None need a parser but to confirm what you should know already, only the most hardcore might get a small benefit by using a parser optimizating their jobs to the limit but thats a tiny minority of the players and the gain is really minor
    Just butting in... How do you think the best rotations are found?
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    Tuya Bayaqud
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    Just butting in... How do you think the best rotations are found?
    Trial and error and if you feel lazy you can simply search on internet for people who actually bothered to do so and kindly posted their findings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhearil View Post
    Trial and error and if you feel lazy you can simply search on internet for people who actually bothered to do so and kindly posted their findings
    and... those people are theorycrafter. who works with mathematics ... AND parsers... yes. hard to believe but theorycraft needs some parsing.

    like top world people are using parsers... if the best players of the games uses it to perfect their gameplay...
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    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: [...]these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhearil View Post
    Trial and error and if you feel lazy you can simply search on internet for people who actually bothered to do so and kindly posted their findings
    How do you think they got the answers to show you online?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    How do you think they got the answers to show you online?
    Why by adding up all the info in their battle log of course!

    Sorry, couldn't help myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhearil View Post
    Trial and error and if you feel lazy you can simply search on internet for people who actually bothered to do so and kindly posted their findings
    And where does that trial and error come from? Theory crafting on target dummies for hours while running a parse to gauge the difference in damage. Every single rotation video on Youtube is someone who spent time with ACT running and compared their damage with other players. Take parsers away and you're literally throwing darts at a board and hoping something sticks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    And where does that trial and error come from? Theory crafting on target dummies for hours while running a parse to gauge the difference in damage. Every single rotation video on Youtube is someone who spent time with ACT running and compared their damage with other players. Take parsers away and you're literally throwing darts at a board and hoping something sticks.
    Actually a lot of the time this work is done with simulators, as they can do a full encounter's worth of combat in a fraction of the time without human error to alter the results. Not saying work isn't also done by humans with parsers, just merely stating they are not the sole source of information for theory crafters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    Just butting in... How do you think the best rotations are found?
    math, the damage formula is known and potency values are given hell. for this expansion your rotation was already figured out before you logged into stormblood for the first time parsers have nothing to do with it.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    math, the damage formula is known and potency values are given hell. for this expansion your rotation was already figured out before you logged into stormblood for the first time parsers have nothing to do with it.
    Fairly certain the rotations were hypothesized before launch, and then tested afterwards to see if the hypothetical opener/rotation was actually the best to do. Parsers had everything to do with that.
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