Pushed to quit after 1,860 days subbed

[Jojoya]

The point here is that it the game doesn't highlight auto demolition at the most appropriate time, and that's when you buy a house.

Agreed. The information should be shared when a player first becomes eligible to purchase and not weeks or months in advance of that date.

Or did you miss where I said they should change when the quest becomes available?

I can't speak for what things were like 5 years ago but I know what they're like now. When SE makes a change that's going to impact how players use content already existing, they put an announcement in the launcher. It's not SE's fault if the player chooses not to click the announcement to read the information.

It still doesn't change my feelings about personal accountability. Yes, we're human. As humans, the lessons we learn the best are the ones we learn when we make mistakes. If we're constantly passing responsibility for things that affect us personally onto others (be it another person or a company), we're not learning anything other than how to avoid responsibility for the choices we make.

If it means losing a house in a game because the player couldn't be bothered to enter that house once every 6 weeks to learn to start taking responsibility, I'm all for it. Better to lose something in a game and learn from it if it means we've learned not to repeat similar mistakes in real life and lose things of real value.

I didn't "selectively edit" anything. I literally ran my level 1 alt out to the Mist, as I said I did in the beginning of my post. I got that pop up upon entering, which I posted. Then the "Active Help" menu came up for housing, which I posted all pictures of. Then I went to the resident caretaker as I was told to do. Finding out about the housing timer is 3 menus in. Are you really wanting me to go back and take screenshots of the sections that had nothing to do with the housing timer?

Try and claim whatever you wish, but I do not make it a habit to intentionally try and lead people astray by being sneaky and editing things in a way to defend my stance. I also was very upfront about the fact I did not do the quest as I'm far too lazy to level a character to level 5, but I did provide a video link of someone doing that very quest. I also summed up the video saying that they basically tell you to just go talk to the Resident Caretaker.

If I missed something, then I would love for you to actually tell me what as I do not believe I left anything out. Go to the residence caretaker yourself if you wish. To get to the housing demo timer information, you will need to go Housing Inquiries > Land Ownership > What happens if I abandon my estate.

Of course you selectively edited it. Look at all the screenshots you included.

Did you include screenshots of the quest text? Nope.

Did you provide screenshots of the NPC telling you that you should go speak to the Resident Caretaker to get more information about purchasing land? Nope.

Did you include screenshots of the 6 or 7 pages of informational messages that appear after you click on the "What happens if I abandon my house" option? Nope.

You limited the screenshots to the ones that support your position. You made it look like SE provides less information than they actually do and that the player will only find the information even exists if they randomly stumble across it instead of showing that the quest actually directs you where to go to get it.

The quest that you do at such a low level that you are still far away from owning a house. So if someone new still went to the resident caretaker they probably would have stopped reading after seeing that they are far away from owning a house. Honestly newer players already got enough informations to understand when they start the game, housing would probably be quite away from being interesting at that point. And after that it might be simply too long ago to remember it.

So what exactly would be wrong if SE puts the information directly in the help window? Or directly as a line at the caretaker instead of being behind something that makes it read like its only about giving up th plot yourself? What would it hurt you if they created a bit more information and show this information clear when you buy the house for the plot, maybe including the 35 days to reclaim items? What would be the problem?

Again, agreed it's presented to the player at the wrong level.

SE can add additional information to the Active Help windows all they want and players still won't read through it anymore than they currently do. SE can make the demo timer visible all the time and it still won't help because player will continue to ignore it just as they continue to ignore it when it does appear with 15 days left before demo. Players will still complain that SE didn't do enough to keep them from losing their house. So what would be the point of SE wasting developer time on making those changes if the net outcome will remain the game?

All of this would be a moot point if people simply entered their houses on a regular basis as SE intends. If SE didn't intend for players to be using their houses, then demolition would be tied to subscription instead of house entry.

Is it genuinely that difficult for players to take 2 minutes to walk into their house once every 3 to 4 weeks if they value their house ownership that much? If so, I have to wonder how they managed to level high enough to be eligible to own a house in the first place.

Blame it on being human all you want but being human also means paying for the mistakes you make.